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>>>>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2018, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> W dniu sob, 21.04.2018 o godzinie 17∶17 -0600, użytkownik Daniel Robbins |
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> napisał: |
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>> The second agenda item would be establishing a position of User |
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>> Representative, ideally two people who would sit on the Council and whose |
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>> responsibility would be to represent non-Gentoo-developer Foundation |
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>> members in Council decisions. This would be a trustee-appointed position. |
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>> It can be paid (small consultants fee) or unpaid. I have no problems with |
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>> Gentoo developers serving in this capacity. The criteria for appointment |
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>> would be that the persons should have a passion for representing |
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>> non-Gentoo-developer perspectives for the benefit of the larger Gentoo |
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>> community and the project overall. |
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As a foundation member, I object to consideration of this item. It is |
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a question about the distribution's metastructure (as defined in |
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GLEP 39) and therefore not in the territory of trustees. |
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Especially, the council is not subordinate to the board. |
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> 1. So does it represent users or 'non-Gentoo-developer Foundation |
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> members'? Because using the name 'User Representative' is incorrect if |
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> it represents only a very small quantity of users. In fact, given that |
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> all Gentoo developers are users of Gentoo, and they outrank the numbers |
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> of 'non-Gentoo-developer Foundation members', I dare say that |
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> the remaining Council members would be more appropriate as 'User |
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> Representatives' than those you are proposing. |
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> 2. Are we talking about adding two additional members to the Council, |
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> or replacing two of the seven Council members? |
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> 3. Why would they be appointed by Trustees rather than chosen |
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> in an election by Foundation members? |
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> 4. Why would two of N Council members be paid? This really looks like |
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> corruption to me. |
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> 5. Finally, why do you blankly assume that regular Council members |
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> elected by the developers and the developer community itself can not |
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> 'have a passion for representing> non-Gentoo-developer perspectives for |
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> the benefit of the larger Gentoo community and the project overall'? |
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Michał, I concur with all your points. However, -nfp is not the right |
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list for this discussion. |
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Ulrich |
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