Gentoo Archives: gentoo-nfp

From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)" <klondike@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-nfp <gentoo-nfp@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Consequences of moving the Gentoo foundation somewhere else (Was: Gentoo Foundation Trustees nominations)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:46:37
Message-Id: CAGfcS_kVJZssSRq2OfgK86GKbU91byFVi=iPXudh6sAny4iBtQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Consequences of moving the Gentoo foundation somewhere else (Was: Gentoo Foundation Trustees nominations) by "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)"
1 On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera
2 (klondike) <klondike@g.o> wrote:
3 > El 12/07/17 a las 16:15, Rich Freeman escribió:
4 >
5 >> 2. Tax benefits for US donors, assuming we ever get 501c3 status.
6 >> I'm not sure how important this really is, but a LOT of organizations
7 >> set up 501c3s in the US for this reason alone.
8 > Similar benefits exist in other places of the world, in Spain for
9 > example
10
11 Not for US donors. If you want US donors to get a tax break you need
12 to have a US 501c3.
13
14 Of course similar arrangements exist for donors in other countries.
15 That would be one of the benefits for having multiple organizations.
16 You basically end up needing orgs in any country where you get a lot
17 of donations.
18
19 Most big orgs that get a lot of donations tend to get a lot of these
20 donations in the US, so having donors being able to tax-deduct in the
21 US is a big benefit for them.
22
23 It wasn't intended to be a US-is-better-than-Spain/etc comment.
24
25 >
26 > In our case, since exploitation of Gentoo can happen anywhere on the
27 > world such should be the main frameworks we should be used to as USA
28 > can't put fines or anything for actions carried out of their jurisdiction.
29 >
30
31 Somebody needs to tell the US government that, because the US enforces
32 extraterritoriality all the time. The US also still exerts a lot of
33 control over the underlying internet infrastructure which it tends to
34 use to its advantage quite a bit.
35
36 Just look at the RIAA-vs-the-world situation. Sure, it is whack a
37 mole but there is no question that they manage to get US interests
38 enforced all over the place.
39
40 I'm not saying that is a good thing. However, the fact is that a
41 judgment in a US court will get you a lot further than a judgement in
42 a lot of other courts, because the US tends to throw its weight
43 around. If we ever find ourselves wanting to wield that power "for
44 good" then it could be useful to have access to it.
45
46 That was really the only point I was trying to make. It is something
47 to think about.
48
49 --
50 Rich

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