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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] [Discussion and vote] Hire CPA for Fiscal 2020 taxes
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:08:40
Message-Id: 176c784f89056b1ad6208fa7f56e7e1a917050d9.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] [Discussion and vote] Hire CPA for Fiscal 2020 taxes by Alec Warner
1 On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 22:55 -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
2 > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:39 PM Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
3 >
4 > > Dnia July 21, 2020 5:13:29 AM UTC, Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
5 > > napisał(a):
6 > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 9:38 PM Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
7 > > >
8 > > > > Dnia July 21, 2020 4:31:22 AM UTC, Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
9 > > > > napisał(a):
10 > > > > > I drove.On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 8:10 PM Michał Górny
11 > > > > > <mgorny@g.o>
12 > > > > > wrote:
13 > > > > >
14 > > > > > > On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 15:33 -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
15 > > > > > > > In our previous fiscal year we hired a firm to do our taxes for
16 > > > > > 2019, as
17 > > > > > > > well as a number of previous years. Are there any concerns with
18 > > > > > > > retaining this firm for the 2020 tax year?
19 > > > > > > >
20 > > > > > >
21 > > > > > > 1. Are we talking about 'just' the filings or full-scale
22 > > > bookkeeping
23 > > > > > > this time?
24 > > > > > >
25 > > > > >
26 > > > > > This is just the filings for now.
27 > > > > >
28 > > > > >
29 > > > > > > 2. How hard would it be to do it ourselves, given we have previous
30 > > > > > > filings by the CPA?
31 > > > > > >
32 > > > > >
33 > > > > > I don't know anyone who could do them properly. I cannot do them
34 > > > > > properly
35 > > > > > for certain. The tax return last year was 14 pages.
36 > > > > >
37 > > > > > Obviously I could file something; but there are penalties for
38 > > > > > making mistakes.
39 > > > > >
40 > > > > >
41 > > > > > > 3. Could you get some quotes first?
42 > > > > > >
43 > > > > >
44 > > > > > I haven't asked for a price from the CPA yet. Last year we paid
45 > > > 1500$
46 > > > > > per
47 > > > > > tax year (and per 1, this payment was just for taxes.
48 > > > >
49 > > > > Oh, one more thing I've forgotten to ask. How does this compare last
50 > > > > years' donations, and what are our prospective donations for this
51 > > > year
52 > > > > (based on received so far vs 1st half last year)?
53 > > > >
54 > > >
55 > > > Our fiscal year runs July => June. So the fiscal 2020 year just
56 > > > completed.
57 > > > We don't have complete financials for fiscal 2020 yet. I looked at the
58 > > > paypal transactions and donations are slightly up from fiscal 2019. We
59 > > > should have the financials done later in the year (typically around AGM
60 > > > time.)
61 > >
62 > > Are you saying that we haven't been negatively impacted by the pandemic?
63 > >
64 >
65 > I'm saying the paypal donations look similar. It's not a complete
66 > accounting (sometimes people give us money not through paypal.)
67 >
68 > If you want a full accounting I recommend waiting for the report at the
69 > AGM; this is me just trying to get you an estimated answer quickly. Does
70 > that make sense?
71 >
72
73 Well, you didn't answer me how it compares but I've dug it up anyway.
74
75 So if I read the financial reports right, cash donations in the last
76 years were around (I'm ignoring the fees, GSoC income, etc.):
77
78 FY2016: $12.5k
79 FY2017: $11.5k
80 FY2018: $23k
81
82 So FY2019 should be similar.
83
84 If the price remained at $1.5k a year, this would be around 7% of cash
85 donations. Isn't this a bit much?
86
87 --
88 Best regards,
89 Michał Górny

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