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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Questions For Gentoo Foundation Trustee Candidates
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 20:49:59
Message-Id: 7d75de33f803d65f4311bea4aedb21bc295183a1.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Questions For Gentoo Foundation Trustee Candidates by Roy Bamford
1 On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 20:59 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
2 > On 2019.07.13 20:03, Michał Górny wrote:
3 > > On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 16:50 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
4 > > > On 2019.07.13 14:39, Michał Górny wrote:
5 > > > > On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 06:17 -0700, Raymond Jennings wrote:
6 > > > > > What are your plans regarding future relations between the
7 > > trustees
8 > > > > and the
9 > > > > > council? I noted that the council isn't even mentioned in the
10 > > > > bylaws
11 > > > >
12 > > > > I've answered this in detail in my Manifesto [1].
13 > > > >
14 > > > > Long story short, I believe the distribution should be
15 > > self-governing,
16 > > > > and Foundation should support it without interfering
17 > > unnecessarily.
18 > > > > This means that Council makes the majority of the decisions
19 > > regarding
20 > > > > Gentoo, and Trustees should work with the Council and respect
21 > > > > the decisions made by it.
22 > > > >
23 > > > > [1] https://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/trustee-manifesto-2019.txt
24 > > > >
25 > > > > --
26 > > > > Best regards,
27 > > > > Michał Górny
28 > > > >
29 > > > >
30 > > >
31 > > > Michał,
32 > > >
33 > > > The ideals "self-governing" and "professional umbrella" appear to be
34 > > at
35 > > > variance with each other. The professional umbrella will have a
36 > > board
37 > > > of directors that Gentoo devs have no say in the appointment of.
38 > > >
39 > > > How do you reconcile these apparently contradictory ideals?
40 > >
41 > > Just like with every other external company, we will need to negotiate
42 > > and sign a contract. This contract must guarantee that the umbrella
43 > > will give Gentoo appropriate freedom in handling its own affairs.
44 > >
45 > > We don't have a say in appointing directors of banks, service
46 > > providers,
47 > > CPA... yet I am yet to hear that we can't use their services because
48 > > of
49 > > that. In fact, with most of those companies we probably have even
50 > > less
51 > > say than with the potential umbrellas.
52 >
53 > We get to choose all of these things and change if we want to.
54 > An umbrella will own gentoo.
55
56 It will own Gentoo the same way banks own our money or hosting services
57 own our servers. The contract must protect Gentoo, and let us leave
58 the umbrella if they do not meet our needs.
59
60 --
61 Best regards,
62 Michał Górny

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