Re: [gentoo-nfp] Questions For Gentoo Foundation Trustee Candidates

[Roy Bamford]

On 2019.07.13 20:03, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 16:50 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > On 2019.07.13 14:39, Michał Górny wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 06:17 -0700, Raymond Jennings wrote:
> > > > What are your plans regarding future relations between the
> trustees
> > > and the
> > > > council?  I noted that the council isn't even mentioned in the
> > > bylaws
> > >
> > > I've answered this in detail in my Manifesto [1].
> > >
> > > Long story short, I believe the distribution should be
> self-governing,
> > > and Foundation should support it without interfering
> unnecessarily.
> > > This means that Council makes the majority of the decisions
> regarding
> > > Gentoo, and Trustees should work with the Council and respect
> > > the decisions made by it.
> > >
> > > [1] https://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/trustee-manifesto-2019.txt
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Michał Górny
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Michał,
> >
> > The ideals "self-governing" and "professional umbrella" appear to be
> at
> > variance with each other. The professional umbrella will have a
> board
> > of directors that Gentoo devs have no say in the appointment of.
> >
> > How do you reconcile these apparently contradictory ideals?
>
> Just like with every other external company, we will need to negotiate
> and sign a contract.  This contract must guarantee that the umbrella
> will give Gentoo appropriate freedom in handling its own affairs.
>
> We don't have a say in appointing directors of banks, service
> providers,
> CPA... yet I am yet to hear that we can't use their services because
> of
> that.  In fact, with most of those companies we probably have even
> less
> say than with the potential umbrellas.

We get to choose all of these things and change if we want to.
An umbrella will own gentoo.

>
> Finally, do Gentoo devs really have much say in appointing Trustees?
> Just like Alec said -- when was the last time people actually had
> a choice between candidates, rather than between accepting the few who
> volunteered and leaving Foundation without Trustees?  An umbrella will
> at least be bound by specific contract, while GF right now can make
> arbitrary decisions disregarding Gentoo developers.

This problem will not go away if we join an umbrella.

Gentoo will still have to manage its own assets, defend its own
trademarks and so on.

That leads nicely on to a new question but I'll ask it as a separate 
question rather than bury it here.

>
> --
> Best regards,
> Michał Górny
>
>

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Regards,

Roy Bamford
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