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On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 16:50 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: |
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> On 2019.07.13 14:39, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 06:17 -0700, Raymond Jennings wrote: |
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> > > What are your plans regarding future relations between the trustees |
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> > and the |
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> > > council? I noted that the council isn't even mentioned in the |
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> > bylaws |
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> > I've answered this in detail in my Manifesto [1]. |
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> > Long story short, I believe the distribution should be self-governing, |
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> > and Foundation should support it without interfering unnecessarily. |
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> > This means that Council makes the majority of the decisions regarding |
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> > Gentoo, and Trustees should work with the Council and respect |
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> > the decisions made by it. |
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> > |
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> > [1] https://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/trustee-manifesto-2019.txt |
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> > |
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> > -- |
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> > Best regards, |
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> > Michał Górny |
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> > |
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> > |
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> Michał, |
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> The ideals "self-governing" and "professional umbrella" appear to be at |
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> variance with each other. The professional umbrella will have a board |
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> of directors that Gentoo devs have no say in the appointment of. |
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> How do you reconcile these apparently contradictory ideals? |
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Just like with every other external company, we will need to negotiate |
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and sign a contract. This contract must guarantee that the umbrella |
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will give Gentoo appropriate freedom in handling its own affairs. |
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We don't have a say in appointing directors of banks, service providers, |
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CPA... yet I am yet to hear that we can't use their services because of |
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that. In fact, with most of those companies we probably have even less |
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say than with the potential umbrellas. |
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Finally, do Gentoo devs really have much say in appointing Trustees? |
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Just like Alec said -- when was the last time people actually had |
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a choice between candidates, rather than between accepting the few who |
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volunteered and leaving Foundation without Trustees? An umbrella will |
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at least be bound by specific contract, while GF right now can make |
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arbitrary decisions disregarding Gentoo developers. |
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-- |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |