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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
To: gentoo-nfp@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Nomination of Alec Warner (antarus) for the Trustee Election
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 10:03:08
Message-Id: TjsRwAbSKfMe9n796U8eKB@Ycl88R/jbto0RLk4vt8HA
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Nomination of Alec Warner (antarus) for the Trustee Election by Rich Freeman
1 On 2018.07.12 19:26, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 2:15 PM Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
3 > wrote:
4 > >
5 > > Fixing things to wind up the Foundation and fixing things to run
6 > > the Foundation is exactly the same work.
7 > >
8 > > I don't percieve a vote for Alec, at this time, as a vote to wind up
9 > > the Foundaion, that happens later with a vote of members.
10 > >
11 > > Its a vote to fix things, possibly by throwing money at the
12 > problems.
13 > >
14 >
15 > Sort of. Keep in mind that if your strategy is to achieve compliance
16 > and spin down, then you're going to be willing to spend quite a bit of
17 > money to resolve things (an unsustainable amount long-term, but there
18 > is no long-term). You're also going to try to avoid doing stuff that
19 > makes that more complicated (ongoing operations/etc). You don't need
20 > a sustainable process, because there is nothing to sustain. Instead
21 > the focus should be on what comes next. If you can get that long-term
22 > body to start picking up bills and building up donations before you
23 > shut down that might also make sense. You might appoint a lawyer as
24 > your treasurer/etc.
25
26 Whatever the board decide to do they have fudicary duty to get value
27 for money for the activities that they fund.
28 That implies that if a fix costs $x, that's what it costs, regardless of the
29 long term outlook for the Foundation.
30 The fudicary duty also implies optimising (not maximising) any remaining
31 funds to pass on to the Foundations successor.
32
33 For the avoidance of doubt, value for money, does not mean lowest
34 price. There are always intangibles to be assessed in value judgements.
35
36 >
37 > Then if the community doesn't back the vote you just go bankrupt
38 > because you're out of money and have no sustainable model going
39 > forward. Either way you dissolve the org I guess, it just changes
40 > whether the community vs the IRS gets the Gentoo name.
41
42 That's always an option.
43
44 >
45 > --
46 > Rich
47 >
48 >
49
50 --
51 Regards,
52
53 Roy Bamford
54 (Neddyseagoon) a member of
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