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On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 05:19:30PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:59 PM Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o> wrote: |
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> > Additionally, the new by-laws would *legally* hold trustees accountable |
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> > for failure in due diligence. Of course, that will probably slim down |
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> > the pool of available individuals willing to run for the seats. |
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> > Conversely, it will stop people just keeping seats warm. |
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> That sounds nice in theory, but unless you're willing to pay a |
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> professional board the only people you're going to get manning the |
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> ship are those too incompetent to realize what they're signing up for. |
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> And considering that we can't really even fully man the current |
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> Foundation, how do we think that driving off volunteers is going to |
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> improve things? |
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Is this meant to be rhetorical? I said it was a downfall already. |
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> I'm also not really sure to what degree bylaws could actually create |
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> more liability for board members when New Mexico law tries to minimize |
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> this sort of liability. |
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It obviously cannot make the law more stringent, but by removing "limiting |
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liability" section it can at least enforce the minimum. Also, NM has nothing to |
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do with my proposal. Indiana does. |
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> The Foundation is really a product of the community. If anybody |
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> actually cared that much about properly running a non-profit then we'd |
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> have enough volunteers to do the work, and we'd have a good selection |
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> of candidates for the board so that voting can be used to hold people |
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> to account. If we have incompetent board members I think that says |
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> more about the community than the individuals trying to do something |
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> to make things better. |
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> Now, there are certainly professionals who could do the job well and |
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> who would probably be willing to do so under any reasonable liability |
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> requirements. There are law firms that even specialize in these sorts |
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> of things. However, you're not going to be able to just give them |
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> Gentoo T-shirts as their sole compensation. |
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No, but have you considered the rates for minimal hours quarterly, |
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annually, as-needed? It is minor. I have mentioned this already. |
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> I think we have to acknowledge that we as a community don't really |
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> care that much to keep a non-profit running, and honestly I'm not sure |
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> I can think of a reason why we really should care. I think we're best |
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> served by minimizing our dependence on spending money in the first |
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> place, and if we must do it just use an umbrella that specializes in |
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> such things. |
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Are you speaking for the community here? Or is it the lack of action by |
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those elected? We could try and find reasons for everything. |
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It really isn't hard to spend money and account for it. Please don't |
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make it seem like it is moving a mountain. |
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> Rich |
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Cheers, |
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Aaron |
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