Gentoo Archives: gentoo-portage-dev

From: Kristian Benoit <kbenoit@×××××××.com>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@l.g.o
Cc: Christopher Korn <chris@××××××.de>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Next major version
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:57:55
Message-Id: 1123865557.23755.60.camel@localhost
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Next major version by Alec Warner
1 On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 14:19 -0400, Alec Warner wrote:
2 > Christopher Korn wrote:
3 >
4 > >>>Hi Jason and other folks,
5 > >>>I saw your last comment on
6 > >>>http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73350 about most the these
7 > >>>feature to be present in the next major version. That is really
8 > >>>great to read.
9 > >>>
10 > >>>On that subject, I'd like to have an idea about when we should
11 > >>>expect that next version.
12 > >>>
13 > >>>That said, I think it would be helpful to have a portage developper
14 > >>>site. Perhaps there is and I dont know...
15 > >>>
16 > >>>
17 > >> That would require someone writing one, so if you are
18 > >>volunteering ;)
19 > >>
20 > >>
21 > >
22 > >
23 > >Writing is not the problem. But without (proper) information it is hard
24 > >to write a documentation or something like this.
25 > >
26 > >
27 > >Chris
28 > >
29 > >
30 > I had a wiki that attempted to cover portage-2.0 api documentation as
31 > well as anything written for 2.1 but lost much of the work in a
32 > transition from windows to linux ( I screwed up the SQl backups :) ).
33 > I thought about putting something up on the devwiki but I haven't
34 > proposed anything because no one really likes a wiki for API docs.
35 >
36 > As for API docs, there are none at present; and there are no plans for
37 > any stable docs, IIRC.
38 >
39 > As for a developer website, what kinds of information are you looking for?
40
41 Like you talked about, doc would be nice, Jason has some doc, api doc...
42 here:
43 http://dev.gentoo.org/~jstubbs/
44 but it does not look and is not official.
45
46 I remember, when I started using Gentoo, reading that portage is a stand
47 alone tool, it is not bind into Gentoo in anyway, someone could use it
48 on redhat, debian, lfs...
49
50 Back then I was using lfs so I thought portage could be the way to go on
51 lfs, but I realized that Gentoo fit my needs as I did'nt have to
52 compile everything by hand anymore and still be able to choose compile time
53 options :) OH JOY !!!
54
55 But 5 years or so later, the only official place to get portage releases
56 is still in the gentoo mirrors. There is no RSS feed or anything like
57 that. I still believe that portage has the potential to be so powerful
58 that redhat, debian, ... could be building their packages using portage,
59 managing their own tree, having night build...
60
61 The problem is see, is that the initial portage vision (or perhaps my
62 vision of what was the original portage vision) has not yet been put
63 into sight.
64
65 Having an official web site, doc, ... will help getting visibility and
66 effort from the rest of the world and eventually extend portage beyond
67 Gentoo.
68
69 Thus we need information about the status, timeline, milestone,
70 developper info, contact, cvs/svn repository browsing, getting started,
71 download section with releases and beta, bug report outside of Gentoo's
72 bugzilla...
73
74 Kristian
75
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