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From: Daniel Campbell <zlg@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo metastructure reform - reality and SPI
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 06:16:47
Message-Id: abf7ba14-747c-626b-d996-e801329e2cef@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo metastructure reform - reality and SPI by Kristian Fiskerstrand
1 On 01/11/2017 12:07 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
2 > On 01/11/2017 09:03 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
3 >> Gentoo is a community-driven project lead by the Council, and we should
4 >> keep it that way. I therefore propose we follow the lead of other major
5 >> projects[0] and become associated with SPI[1], making use of their
6 >> various services[2] such as accepting donations, and holding funds and
7 >> other assets. As an associated project, Gentoo would retain its
8 >> independence - SPI would not own, govern, or otherwise control us.
9 >
10 > The proposed metastructure will also work with a Foundation being a
11 > project under council. Various alternatives could be discussed related
12 > to this, and I tend to agree an external entity can be beneficial, in
13 > particular given shared resources, but in the event it is not feasible
14 > or wanted, the foundation could be structured with bylaws that gives
15 > Council mandate to be the voting body and appoint Directors. I
16 > personally believe, in such a scenario, that professional help should be
17 > brought in for some of the tasks, in particular a certified professional
18 > accountant should be used to keep accounts and handle tax reporting.
19 >
20 In that structure, would Foundation members be given votes equal to
21 Gentoo Developers? If not, this is simply an inversion of the other model.
22
23 Perhaps the better question is "Do we want to have to care about the
24 boring parts?" If we do care, then we should hire someone qualified. If
25 we don't, we should leave the non-technical things to whoever and the
26 Council can focus on the technical. Naturally, this means the liaison
27 must be trustworthy, but we're already banking a lot of trust on the
28 existing structure with next to no accountability. Putting someone in a
29 position that *does* have legal ramifications will serve well to keep
30 Gentoo's practical interests in mind for the liaison.
31
32 As a result, we can focus on things that most of us can influence, like
33 RFCs, GLEPs, regular ebuild work, etc.
34
35 My only concern with SPI and its ilk is control over assets. If
36 something happens to our agreement, we'd need provisions that ensure we
37 keep rights to our mark and infra. Without those, it would severely
38 damage us as a distribution and we'd be dead in the water until we
39 acquired other infra. Thankfully, the repositories would be safe due to
40 Git, but the rest is a big concern imo.
41
42 It certainly isn't a decision we'll be able to make lightly.
43
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