1 |
On Wed, 2019-04-03 at 17:43 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: |
2 |
> Why? We have no way to verify that provided names are valid or that |
3 |
> provided ID's are valid. At least in my jurisdiction such |
4 |
> information collected can't be used for legal action or protection |
5 |
> without following established government-assisted verification |
6 |
> procedure. In other jurisdictions similar problems may and will |
7 |
> arise. |
8 |
|
9 |
'Perfect is the enemy of good'. Claiming that you can't be 100% sure |
10 |
that someone's giving his real name doesn't imply that everyone is using |
11 |
fake names. Or that it makes no sense to use them. |
12 |
|
13 |
> Additional problem is personal data collection, it is |
14 |
> restricted or heavily regulated in many countries. One can't just |
15 |
> demand to show an ID via electronic means without following |
16 |
> complicated data protection procedures which are likely to be |
17 |
> incompatible between jurisdictions. |
18 |
|
19 |
Do you have any proof of that, or are you just basing your comments |
20 |
on the common concept of misunderstanding GDPR and extending it to match |
21 |
your private interest? |
22 |
|
23 |
> So the real name requirement gives us no real protection from |
24 |
> possible cases, but creates real and serious problems by kicking |
25 |
> active developers and contributors from further contributions. |
26 |
> NP-Hardass is not the only one. |
27 |
|
28 |
Do you have any proof of that? As far as I'm concerned, we're pretty |
29 |
clear that NP-Hardass can't contribute to Gentoo, and that his previous |
30 |
contributions shouldn't have been accepted in the first place (and why |
31 |
Trustees agreed to them is another problem). Are you going to take |
32 |
legal and financial responsibility if his employer claims copyright to |
33 |
his contributions? And if you say yes, are you going to really take it |
34 |
or go with the forementioned attitude that we can't legally force you |
35 |
to? |
36 |
|
37 |
> I invited some gifted people with |
38 |
> high quality out-of-tree work to become contributors or developers, |
39 |
> but due to hostile attitude towards anonymous contributors they |
40 |
> can't join. And people want to stay anonymous for good reasons, |
41 |
> because they are engaged with privacy oriented development. |
42 |
|
43 |
This is a very vague statement that sounds like serious overstatement |
44 |
with no proof, aimed purely to force emotional reaction to support your |
45 |
proposal. If you really want to propose something meaningful, I'd |
46 |
really appreciate if you used real evidence to support it rather than |
47 |
vague claims. |
48 |
|
49 |
> We are loosing real people, real contributions and real community. |
50 |
> What for? For solving imaginary problems with inappropriate tools. |
51 |
> |
52 |
|
53 |
Thank you for telling us that copyright is an imaginary problem. |
54 |
|
55 |
-- |
56 |
Best regards, |
57 |
Michał Górny |