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On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Daniel Campbell <zlg@g.o> wrote: |
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> On 08/08/2017 09:49 AM, William Hubbs wrote: |
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> > All, |
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> > here is the council agenda for 8/13: |
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> > 1. roll call |
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> > 2. decide whether the kernel team can stabilize minor releases on their |
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> > own once the arch teams have stabilized a major release [1]. |
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> > 3. open bugs with council involvement |
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> > 4. open floor |
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> > Thanks, |
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> > William |
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> > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Kernel#Kernel_stabilization |
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> I would like the council to consider clarifying the text found in the |
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> devmanual regarding revision bumps. [1] At present, the text indicates |
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> that in general we don't want to touch ebuilds that have hit stable. |
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> However, there are exceptions that are not explicitly laid out, that |
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> some of us expect other developers to "just understand", despite a |
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> complete lack of documentation. Developers can't be expected to follow |
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> policy that isn't clear. "Use your best judgment" isn't good enough when |
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> a developer gets berated for using it. |
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> Thus, I would ask the council to answer this one question: When is it |
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> acceptable to correct an ebuild that has already gotten stable keywords? |
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> If more intrepid developers would like to make a flow chart or other |
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> guided aid, that'd be even better. |
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My two cents: |
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* I've heard a few times that once an ebuild hits the tree it is to be |
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considered immutable until deletion. Concerns were raised at the time |
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regarding cache coherency and metadata and so on and the impression was |
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given that, apart from stabilizing and keywording, tinkering with ebuilds |
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in place was a major no-no stable or not. |
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* There's a couple of questions on the dev quiz that seem related to this |
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issue. If any documentation is added or updated, I'd like the dev quiz to |
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be checked for any needed updates. |
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> This was the cause of a recent kerfuffle and I'd like to prevent it from |
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> happening again. Thank you for your time. |
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> ~zlg |
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> [1]: |
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> https://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/ebuild-revisions/index.html |
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