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From: desultory <desultory@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o, "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] pre-GLEP: Gentoo OpenPGP web of trust
Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 05:55:54
Message-Id: c94b722f-cc71-1862-889e-1c89a9ff8900@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] pre-GLEP: Gentoo OpenPGP web of trust by "Michał Górny"
1 On 02/01/19 08:25, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On Thu, 2019-01-31 at 12:33 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
3 >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:56 AM Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
4 >>>
5 >>> 1. It is entirely customary and therefore requires customized software
6 >>> to use. In other words, it's of limited usefulness to people outside
7 >>> Gentoo or does not work out of the box there.
8 >>
9 >> This part could be addressed easily by having Gentoo create a signing
10 >> key, and automatically signing all dev keys based on LDAP using it.
11 >> Then users can trust that one key and inherit trust for the rest.
12 >>
13 >> Users have to opt into the trust model by trusting somebody's key no
14 >> matter what. No reason that couldn't be a centrally-managed one.
15 >>
16 >> I'll also agree with the comment that physically interacting with
17 >> people is not all that easy. There are many areas of the world where
18 >> FOSS developers are relatively uncommon, let alone Gentoo ones.
19 >> Unless those alternate organizations have VERY broad coverage (such as
20 >> an alternative of a notary recognized by any country or something like
21 >> that) you're still going to have issues.
22 >>
23 >>> Verify the person's real name (at least for the user identifier
24 >>> used for copyright purposes). This is usually done through
25 >>> verifying an identification document with photograph. It is
26 >>> a good idea to ask for the document type earlier, and read on
27 >>> forgery protections used.
28 >>
29 >> "usually"? "identification document"? Does this mean that an
30 >> appropriate method of verification is entirely up to individual
31 >> discretion? If so that makes the process of getting every key signed
32 >> fairly trivial as long as two people have (in?)appropriately-rigorous
33 >> standards...
34 >>
35 >
36 > I'm sorry, I keep forgetting that you can't rely on people in Gentoo
37 > being mature and you need to specify everything as 'MUST' and 'MUST
38 > NOT', or otherwise they are going to ignore the spirit of the policy
39 > and violate in the worst way permitted by bending the wording.
40 >
41 You started this thread with what distinctly appeared to be a plea to
42 avoid ad hominem attacks, just to turn around make make them yourself.
43 Do, kindly, stop it.

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Re: [gentoo-project] pre-GLEP: Gentoo OpenPGP web of trust Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>