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On Friday, January 6, 2017 9:47:59 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> I think it is worth implementing this concurrently with a full vote |
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> for all seats so that there is a fresh mandate. We haven't decided |
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> how many seats/etc there should be. It really doesn't matter if you |
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> see this as being the "new council" or the "new trustees" - whatever |
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> we call it the new board inherits the responsibilities of both, and |
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> anybody in either set of roles today (or somebody new entirely) could |
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> end up on it. |
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The trustees and council do not have to change at all to unify. All that has |
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to happen to unify is clarify the mandate of each. What the foundation is |
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responsible for and council. Its mostly already clarified now. |
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The change is really just getting the concept of foundation separate from |
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council out of peoples thought process. For people to see Gentoo as one, with |
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the council being under the Foundation. The council running the project |
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technically. |
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Think of the Council as the CTO. |
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> I only mention this because I have seen some debate about which board |
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> is more fit to do this or that. If there is a fresh election it is a |
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> moot point because people can look at the new list of responsibilities |
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> and vote for whoever they think will handle it best. |
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I do not think it requires a new election, changing numbers of trustees or |
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council members. It is more a logical change than anything. Everyone agree the |
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council and foundation are one, and trustees are over the council, legally not |
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technically. |
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It could even be in the by laws the council has the final say on any and all |
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technical matters. I am shocked the by laws have never been revised since my |
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efforts. My name still remains on them :( That should at minimum be updated |
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any time trustees change, and refile updated by laws with New Mexico. |
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> If for a moment there is a lull in Foundation interest then an |
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> umbrella org can make sure the bills get paid and the filings get done |
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> and the books are always in order, and maybe that is the full extent |
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> of Foundation activity. If at other times there is a lot of interest |
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> in activity then that interest can be focused on growing the |
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> Foundation and doing interesting things with our money, while the |
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> baseline activities continue to have professional oversight. |
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Using a umbrella org comes with cons not just pros. There is a reason this was |
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not done back in 07-08. I do not think much that was discussed has changed. I |
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can see pros and cons. But I believe there were more cons brought up by |
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others, which I do agree with. All in -nfp archives just search using SPI on |
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marc.info or gmane. |
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> It basically frees Gentoo volunteers to focus more on things like |
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> organizing an annual dev conference and less on filing 990s. You |
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> can't do the former unless the latter is in order, and people are |
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> going to be a LOT more willing to sponsor stuff if we have a fairly |
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> solid compliance posture financially. |
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Yes and no, corporations do not support entities under umbrella organizations |
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the same as ones who have their own foundation and such. Don't take my word, |
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research it, and you will likely come to the same conclusion. |
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> > The end result in terms of self-administration is not that much different |
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> > from Matthew's proposal. The legal construct, however, is very much |
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> > different. |
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> Either way we have a central governance. This model also extends well |
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> if we want to have similar legal entities in other countries (assuming |
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> there is some advantage to doing so). You could have a project to |
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> manage this stuff, and sub-projects per country. |
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There was at least one other legal Gentoo entity in the past in another |
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country. I cannot recall more than that. |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |