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> From what I see you are on both council and comrel. I think that is a |
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> conflict of interest. |
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> Council and ComRel should check on each other. If someone is member of |
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> both, then it is likely that he will avoid acting against either party |
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> even if it necessary. |
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> Some worst case scenarios: |
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> * you have a problem with a council member => you go to ComRel in need |
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> of help |
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> * you have a problem with a ComRel member => you go to council, because |
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> going to ComRel isn't necessarily an option (e.g. the person is the |
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> ComRel lead or you think that ComRel isn't in a functional state) |
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> * If someone is on both parties and you got a problem with him, then the |
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> situation is delicate and checks and balances are likely to fail |
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Hey Julian, |
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a few points can be made here (and have already been made in this thread). |
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Let's first talk about the general situation... |
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First of all, both comrel decisions and council decisions are always team |
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actions. You may have seen the situation of "one comrel guy talks to someone |
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and tells him 'please behave'". While this certainly has an effect, and would |
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have been communicated within the comrel team, it does not have much formal |
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meaning. In the (luckily rather rare) cases where a formal comrel decision |
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that has consequences is needed, the steps are documented in detail, including |
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who was involved in the decision making. |
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[If you look at old public bugs tracking such events, you get across texts |
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like "This suspension was agreed upon by x, y, z, a, b, and c. d also agreed |
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with the decision."] |
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The council has 7 members, comrel currently 15. So, even if an individual |
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developer were in both groups and would really cast votes on both levels, that |
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would not give this individual power to "box through" decisions on both |
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levels. That said, I see it as good practice not to take part in any decision |
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on both levels (and intend to stick to that should the case ever arise). |
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Now about me personally... |
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I was invited to join (then) devrel a short time before I was first elected to |
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the council. For a large part I'm still trying to learn from the "comrel |
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ancients" how things are done there, which is not so easy as long as (luckily) |
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not much is happening. I consider the council work more important, and have |
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only limited time. For these reasons, I tend to take things slow in comrel so |
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far and prefer if other people pick up the phone. |
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Cheers, |
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Andreas |
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Andreas K. Huettel |
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Gentoo Linux developer |
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kde, council |