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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:04:29 -0800 |
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Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote: |
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> > On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:56:16 -0500 |
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> > "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote: |
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> > > On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 3:46:34 PM EST Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > > > |
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> > > > 1. I do not mind encouraging more developers to join the Foundation, or |
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> > > > even making it opt-out. However, I do oppose discriminating developers |
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> > > > who decide not to join the Foundation. |
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> > > |
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> > > There should not be any discrimination. Just an understanding by opting |
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> > out |
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> > > you give up your voice/vote. |
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> > And how is that not discriminating? On one hand you talk of giving |
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> > people outside the project the means to influence it, yet you |
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> > explicitly take away the right of voting for people outside |
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> > the Foundation (even though they are in the project, after all). |
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> To put it another way: |
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> 1) One goal is to have more foundation members who are also developers |
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> (alignment of ideas). |
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> 2) If joining the foundation offers no benefit, then developers will not |
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> join. |
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> 3) One benefit we could offer is to merge the voting pools, so that the |
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> voters for Trustees and the Council are the same. |
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> 4) This means that anyone who "really cares about how Gentoo is run as a |
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> distribution" is nominally forced to join the Foundation to exercise their |
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> vote. |
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> This is a specific implementation of the basic idea that "the foundation |
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> has no interesting duties, so we need to give it interesting duties." I |
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> suspect there are other ways of making Foundation membership useful enough |
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> that people actually pursue it. |
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> (Reading it written out it does look like a fairly draconian approach.) |
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Exactly my point. So why do we want to pursue that? Wouldn't it better |
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to make it really optional, and turn Foundation membership into a thing |
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developers would be proud of? |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/> |
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