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On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 5:28:02 PM EST Alec Warner wrote: |
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> FWIW discretion in rule enforcement can be a big deal, so I appreciate you |
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> bringing it up. |
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I must say this is a pretty ironic comment. I guess maybe you have learned |
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over the years. Given you were the 1 person who complained on me and got |
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devrel to act in 2008. Not opinion, fact! |
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https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236479#c6 |
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Of course the harassment I received which motivated me to resign as a Trustee |
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was completely ignored. In part because the above complaint was made to one of |
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the harassers... |
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> I suspect "irrevocably damaging and threatening to Gentoo" is likely not |
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> the bar for dismissal from the project (and the bar is perhaps lower.) |
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Considerably lower! |
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> You can dislike the bar, and I wholeheartedly encourage any efforts to |
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> change it. |
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I would hope so given the long term impact such actions can cause. |
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> So if I openly insult people of other nationalities or races on a regular |
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> basis on mailing lists or in chat, but I'm also a prolific Gentoo |
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> contributor; that is OK? |
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That depends on many factors, but to an extent yes it is OK because this is a |
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technical project and needs people who are prolific contributors. Not everyone |
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has good human relation skills. Does that mean they lack in technical? |
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Maybe the quizzes need to be modified for behavior and social tests? If you |
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want to really insure people have the right demeanor for Gentoo. Seems they |
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focus on technical things for a reason. |
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> We can avoid this by just never excluding people. |
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That is likely a better approach, the opposite hasn't really helped Gentoo. |
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> I doubt that is really tractable because in the case of actual harassment, I |
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> expect the organs of the community to act. |
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This is not a very clear statement. You say not tractable, but then say expect |
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the organs of the community to act. Unless that is mean sarcastically. Seems |
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to imply the community would act to deal with any harassment. Which is likely |
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> Would people leave if we went back to that? |
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Better question to ask is |
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"What will it take for people to want to join?" |
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To much focus on kicking and people leaving. No focus on doing something to |
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actually attract others to the community and grow it... |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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