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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-05-14
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 17:27:36
Message-Id: 5181507F.5060602@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-05-14 by Ciaran McCreesh
1 On 05/01/2013 08:35 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
2 > On Wed, 1 May 2013 17:28:02 +0200
3 > Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
4 >> On Wed, 1 May 2013 16:22:47 +0100
5 >> Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
6 >>> On Wed, 01 May 2013 08:18:50 -0700
7 >>> Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o> wrote:
8 >>>> I know that this feature has been questioned by some, especially
9 >>>> by people involved with Paludis (which doesn't implement
10 >>>> preserve-libs). I think that the main compliant is that
11 >>>> preserve-libs doesn't preserve any non-library dependencies (such
12 >>>> as configuration files) that a library may depend on.
13 >>>
14 >>> ...and that it's utterly frickin' broken as a concept, and that
15 >>> adopting it will slow down people switching to the proper solution
16 >>> to the problem, which is slots.
17 >>
18 >> Convince the developers to split packages into proper parts, then we
19 >> can talk. Or even better, convince upstreams to split their packages.
20 >
21 > It's necessary, and the way to convince developers is to stop providing
22 > a nasty hack as a not-really-working alternative.
23
24 As downstream packagers, do we or can we really expect to have that much
25 influence of upstream developers? If the big binary distros are willing
26 to package these things without complaints, then how likely is it that
27 upstream developers will change their ways?
28 --
29 Thanks,
30 Zac

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