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On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 09:38:47PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: |
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> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Matthias Maier <tamiko@g.o> wrote: |
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> > This is a request by two developers (and not by the council). But I |
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> > would like to answer one of your questions. |
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> > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, at 19:11 CDT, zlg <zlg@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > [...] |
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> > > |
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> > > To the Council: |
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> > > What makes you accountable to this community? Why should we trust or |
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> > > respect you when you have nothing on the line except a title? What |
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> > > happens next if these affirmations are made? What's your angle, your |
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> > > real motivation? |
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> > The Gentoo Developer community has used GLEP 39 [1] for its |
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> > self-organization for the last 12 years. Our "real motivation" (speaking |
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> > as individual developers) is to keep it that way. |
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> > > How do you trust a Council member when they have nothing to lose by |
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> > > acting against the community? |
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> > I fail to see how trying to get an affirmation that the Gentoo |
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> > Foundation is still on board with GLEP 39 is "acting against the |
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> > community". |
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> > We have had a very public case of prometheanfire pushing for dissolving |
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> > the current metastructure and reorganizing the community under the |
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> > Foundation. Andreas and I, personally, disagree with that. |
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> I'm curious what the difference between 'discussing an idea' and 'pushing |
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> for an idea' is. |
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> I want a community where we can discuss ideas (even ideas the council or |
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> you dislike) without it causing a major incident or people getting upset |
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> about it. |
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> What would you have people who have these ideas do differently? |
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(council hat on) |
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Alec, |
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Yes, I see this the same way. I, for one, was open to |
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discussing prometheanfire's idea. The way you do that is you state why |
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you don't like the idea and go from there to either try to refine it or |
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drop it. |
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My opinion is that my fellow council members see his proposal as a power |
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grab. I don't understand why though, because all it was was a proposal. |
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There was no attempt to act on it, and it couldn't have been enacted |
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without a full developer vote in the first place. |
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William |
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