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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
To: gentoo-project <gentoo-project@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Foundation meeting agenda for April 2018
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 01:38:50
Message-Id: CAAr7Pr8xE2fwk1OmWY5Kwr=gVe8csf=4iBWwdieQq3fNUTicvw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Foundation meeting agenda for April 2018 by Matthias Maier
1 On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Matthias Maier <tamiko@g.o> wrote:
2
3 > This is a request by two developers (and not by the council). But I
4 > would like to answer one of your questions.
5 >
6 >
7 > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018, at 19:11 CDT, zlg <zlg@g.o> wrote:
8 >
9 > > [...]
10 > >
11 > > To the Council:
12 > >
13 > > What makes you accountable to this community? Why should we trust or
14 > > respect you when you have nothing on the line except a title? What
15 > > happens next if these affirmations are made? What's your angle, your
16 > > real motivation?
17 >
18 > The Gentoo Developer community has used GLEP 39 [1] for its
19 > self-organization for the last 12 years. Our "real motivation" (speaking
20 > as individual developers) is to keep it that way.
21 >
22 >
23 > > How do you trust a Council member when they have nothing to lose by
24 > > acting against the community?
25 >
26 > I fail to see how trying to get an affirmation that the Gentoo
27 > Foundation is still on board with GLEP 39 is "acting against the
28 > community".
29 >
30 > We have had a very public case of prometheanfire pushing for dissolving
31 > the current metastructure and reorganizing the community under the
32 > Foundation. Andreas and I, personally, disagree with that.
33 >
34
35 I'm curious what the difference between 'discussing an idea' and 'pushing
36 for an idea' is.
37 I want a community where we can discuss ideas (even ideas the council or
38 you dislike) without it causing a major incident or people getting upset
39 about it.
40 What would you have people who have these ideas do differently?
41
42 -A
43
44
45 > Best,
46 > Matthias
47 >
48 > [1] https://www.gentoo.org/glep/glep-0039.html
49 >

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