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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 11:26:56
Message-Id: MSW6PGAY.6HKCAHYY.3EVSTC2H@GXKJUOY4.SSPUY6ED.TL62SB63
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation by "Michał Górny"
1 On 2019.07.01 10:52, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 10:31 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
3 > > On 2019.07.01 08:50, Michał Górny wrote:
4 > > > On Sun, 2019-06-30 at 17:55 -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote:
5 > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 05:54:35PM -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote:
6 > > > > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 01:49:58AM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel
7 > > > wrote:
8 > > > > > > > Isn't it about time we quit pinning the mistakes of the
9 > past
10 > > > on the
11 > > > > > > > officers of the present?
12 > > > > > >
13 > > > > > > Well, yes. Though, we tried something in the past, it didnt
14 > > > work, we should do
15 > > > > > > it different in the future.
16 > > > > > >
17 > > > > > > > From what I understand, the present and recent
18 > > > > > > > officers have made extraordinary efforts to rectify the
19 > > > shortcomings of
20 > > > > > > > previous trustees
21 > > > > > >
22 > > > > > > And that's great.
23 > > > > > >
24 > > > > > > But are you sure that we should require continuous
25 > > > "extraordinary efforts"
26 > > > > > > from trustees in the future, just to keep things running?
27 > > > > > >
28 > > > > > > FWIW, I endorse antarus / Alec for trustee. :)
29 > > > >
30 > > > > No, once fixed, the books will likely be continued to be done by
31 > a
32 > > > full time CPA.
33 > > >
34 > > > Wouldn't a dedicated 'full time CPA' be more expensive than an
35 > > > umbrella
36 > > > that has a financial team for multiple projects?
37 > > >
38 > > > --
39 > > > Best regards,
40 > > > Michał Górny
41 > > >
42 > > >
43 > >
44 > > Ah, the nuances of the English language used between two non
45 > > native spears.
46 > >
47 > > A 'full time CPA' means that the person does that sort of work full
48 > > time. It does not mean that he or she works full time for any one
49 > > client.
50 > >
51 >
52 > Yes, I understand that. However, I still believe that a contract
53 > initiated between CPA and a single small-ish entity such a Gentoo
54 > involves more costs than fees taken by umbrella dedicated to multiple
55 > entities. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
56
57 Nobody knows yet. Different umbrellas work differently. Different CPAs
58 charge differently and perform different scopes of work.
59 The Foundation will need to perform a value judgement based on
60 quotations not beliefs.
61
62 Its not all for the Foundation to decide. We have to find an umbrella to
63 have us before dissolving the Foundation is even an option.
64
65 >
66 > While I can agree that we need to pay more at the moment due to past
67 > issues, I also believe that we owe it to our donors that we try not to
68 > spend most of their money on unnecessary bureaucracy (read: keeping
69 > a dedicated Foundation if there's an alternative that works for
70 > Gentoo).
71
72 Yes. That's what due diligence is partly about, ensuring the Foundation
73 gets value for money.
74
75 >
76 > --
77 > Best regards,
78 > Michał Górny
79 >
80 >
81
82 --
83 Regards,
84
85 Roy Bamford
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