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Ulm, |
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You are using hyperbole. A majority vote of trustees is required. That is |
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not haphazard, as you state -- it is a process that requires majority |
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consensus of elected officials. We assume that the trustees are looking out |
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for the project. The trustees are there to protect the community so they |
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must have this ability. |
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If you have concerns over potential for abuse, I'd be interested to hear |
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those concerns and discuss those. |
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Best, |
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Daniel |
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On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 12:32 AM, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o> wrote: |
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> >>>>> On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Matthew Thode wrote: |
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> > On 18-02-08 15:33:02, Daniel Robbins wrote: |
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> >> I think rich0 is spot-on here where if we make it even shorter, it gets |
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> >> even stronger: |
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> >> Section 4.9. Termination from Membership. |
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> >> Membership may be terminated by a majority vote of the board of |
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> >> trustees. |
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> >> No explanation required. Right now, it sounds like the trustees may |
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> >> need to justify that the member is acting contrary to the |
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> >> purpose(s) of the Foundation. When really, no justification should |
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> >> be required (it just opens the door for endless argument, |
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> >> grumpiness, and thus more likely to lead to legal action). At the |
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> >> very least, it should say that the trustees can remove anyone *they |
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> >> feel* (ie. based on *their opinion*, which can't be argued) is |
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> >> acting poorly. That removes the possibility of debate. |
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> > Agreed, this is the only improvement I see us making to that specific |
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> > bylaw. |
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> Have I understood this right, removing the possibility of debate and |
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> giving trustees the power to haphazardly kick members is seen as an |
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> *improvement* over what there is now? I would rather call it |
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> despotism. |
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> Just for comparison, look at the corresponding wording in the bylaws |
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> of Gentoo e.V. (my attempt of a translation, original German is in |
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> https://gentoo-ev.org/w/images/8/86/Satzung.pdf, §4 (5)): |
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> "A member may be excluded by decision of the board: for damaging the |
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> reputation of the Verein, for failing to pay the membership fee, or |
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> for another important reason. The board must communicate the decision |
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> to the excluded member in writing, indicating the reasons, and give |
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> him hearing on request. The general members' assembly can be invoked |
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> for an appeal against the board's decision; membership is suspended |
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> until the decision of the general assembly." |
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> |
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> Ulrich |
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