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On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 9:22 AM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote: |
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> On 13/11/16 13:59, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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>> Why would we want people who don't make any significant contributions |
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>> to the organization to be voting on how it ought to operate? |
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>> Those who do make significant contributions ought to sign up to be |
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>> developers/staff/whatever (you don't need to write ebuilds to be a |
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>> developer), and then they get to vote for Council. |
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> Yes, but status quo (unless I'm mistaken) is not all contributors (just |
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> ebuild devs??) vote for council, or am I mistaken ... could easily be |
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> mistaken here .. |
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You are mistaken. Anybody with an @g.o email address gets to vote for |
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Council. The term "developer" doesn't just refer to people who write |
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ebuilds. |
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> and appropriate stats would have to be found to |
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> demonstrate that non-ebuild devs were still actively being represented |
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> on the council (possibly even my a single defined non-technical |
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> role?) |
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They vote for the Council. Everybody on the Council represents them. |
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People seem to think that the Council is solely responsible for a |
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technical role. It isn't. It is responsible for all of the Gentoo |
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projects including those which are non-technical in nature (well, as |
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much as any project in Gentoo can be non-technical). |
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> Conceivably this would also work .. a 'Finance' project .. a 'Legal' |
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> project.. if that's the way you want to do it, great. But the flow of |
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> accountability should be clear and transparent. And if there should be a |
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> problem with the council, ever, there should be an independent body (a |
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> Trust frequently or other Board of Directors, non-executive, etc) which |
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> can review and rectify any exclusively council issues, upholding the key |
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> aim of creating a Linux Distro. |
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We have an independent body. It is called the developers. They're |
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the ones who elect the Council annually. |
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If you're going to have the developers elect an additional body, then |
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just rename that to the Council or whatever and dissolve the one below |
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them. There is no need to have governance bodies stacked like witches |
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hats because we can't deal with the reality that in the end somebody |
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needs to actually make a decision that stands. |
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Rich |
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