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On 02/15/15 10:23, Mart Raudsepp wrote: |
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> On L, 2015-02-14 at 16:37 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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>> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Andreas K. Huettel |
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>> <dilfridge@g.o> wrote: |
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>>> We need to resolve this discussion somehow, by formulating a clear policy. |
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>>> Which is why I'm putting it up here for discussion and will ask to add it to |
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>>> the next council meeting agenda. |
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>> I tend to agree with what seems to be the general sentiment. As long |
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>> as we still accept patches via bugzilla/etc, then we aren't |
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>> "depending" on github. |
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>> FOSS alternatives are to be preferred, but since we don't have those |
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>> set up, I don't see why we have to live without anything in the |
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>> meantime. If somebody wants to host such a thing, I'd encourage them |
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>> to do so, and work with infra if they'll accept help. |
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> That is a good question. |
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> I'm sorry if I am the only one to point this out, but: |
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> We do NOT have even a WEB VIEW of our OFFICIAL overlays to see what is |
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> going on there without BLINDLY cloning git URIs randomly! |
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> Why should contributors care ONE BIT about things outside their comfort |
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> zone of contributions, which is github in many cases these days? |
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> After 6 months of complete blindness on official overlays, I was |
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> eventually pointed at an outside cgit which shows what's going on there. |
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Yeah, http://cgit.gentooexperimental.org |
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I've set that up as a temporary thingy until infra remembers to infra. |
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In the meantime feel free to use it, it's updated every ~4h by cronjob. |
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> After 2 years of talking, we are still using CVS. |
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Actually closer to 10 years, but cvs works well enough that people don't |
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spend that much time on migrating to alternatives |
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> With all the respect to the infra team they have done with their |
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> existing capabilities, but we need to do better and find better ways to |
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> achieve what we can with existing resources and fix this completely sad |
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> state. |
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I would help if I could ... there's still stuff like archives.gentoo.org |
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where I have not enough information *how* it is broken to figure out a fix. |
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Also I'm running too much other stuff that infra should be running, so |
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why the bleeping bleep bleep bleeeeeep bleep bleep do I have to run all |
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these services?! |
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(If I'm not forgetting anything - |
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znurt.org (beandog's alternative to packages.g.o) |
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AutoRepoman (an ugly shell script I hacked together during a long weekend) |
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irker (reports to IRC, but gets horribly confused with git commits |
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messages as I still don't have access to proper git postcommit hooks) |
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libreoffice-bin build host |
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http://packages.gentooexperimental.org/packages (cronjob'ed binpkg |
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server for @system on x86/amd64) |
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http://cgit.gentooexperimental.org - even mirrors the github |
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gentoo-portage-rsync-mirror repo |
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) |
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All these things are rather trivial to set up (I spent *almost* 2h to |
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figure out cgit from scratch), so I wonder why Gentoo Infra doesn't |
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infra. If y'all need help just say so and help shall be provided! |
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Have fun, |
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Patrick |
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