Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] pre-GLEP: Gentoo General Resolution

[Eray Aslan]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 08:32:25PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> I've chosen our numbers to be high enough to discourage attempted abuse
> while making it possible to actually use GR when necessary.  Which
> numbers are you specifically talking about?

N1 and N2

> N1 being around 30 developers may seem large but it's certainly smaller
> than the number of Gentoo developers actively contributing to Gentoo
> every day.  I get that getting them all to sign off is cumbersome but if
> there's a real reason to use GR, I'm pretty sure they'll find
> the motivation to do that.

GLEP: twice the square root of active developers, i.e. ~30 I guess
Debian: half the square root active developers or 5 whichever is
smaller.  So practically 6 (5+1)

And bear in mind that Debian has a lot more active developers.

> N2 being 25% developers is really small.  We're talking about all-dev
> vote, so really expecting at least 25% to actively take part is a must.
> It's larger than N1 but we're talking of a vote that's handled via
> voting mechanism all devs are supposed to notice.

GLEP: 25%
Debian: ~10% if we take number of active developers as 200

> The 2:1 majority is what Debian uses for overriding decisions of TC.

2:1 is fine.

Getting ~30 developers to sign a petition is just not realistic.  I
doubt it will ever be done.

I feel we are back to the same differences as we did in closing the
gentoo-dev ML to the general public, namely low/no tolerance for
dissident voices.

"I know best, my way or highway" attitude is not always a bad thing in
technical matters.  However, as we have seen in the gentoo-dev ML
discussion, council decides on non-tech matters as well.

The procedure for calculating the number of active developers should
probably also be mentioned somewhere in the GLEP or perhaps referenced
if defined elsewhere.

-- 
Eray