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On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 2:11 PM Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 12:30:04PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: |
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> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:20 PM Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > On July 4, 2020 8:57:33 PM EDT, Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> |
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> wrote: |
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> > > >On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 2:44 PM Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 12:33 PM Andrew Savchenko < |
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> bircoph@g.o> |
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> > > >> wrote: |
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> > > >> > This is one more aspect to this: some companies double donations |
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> > > >> > for 501c3 organizations. A friend of mine works in a large |
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> > > >> > corporation with HQ is the US and told me that his employer |
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> doubles |
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> > > >> > any donations made to 501c3, so he made no donation for Gentoo, |
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> > > >> > because that will mean loosing money for community which otherwise |
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> > > >> > can be doubled. So it is likely that 501c3 will increase incoming |
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> > > >> > donations. |
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> > > >> That is a really good point and I'll expand on this. |
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> > > >> Some organizations will only donate money to 501c3 organizations. |
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> > > >> Basically they're letting the IRS do the due diligence around |
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> whether |
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> > > >> the organization is actually charitable. They can potentially also |
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> > > >> receive tax benefits this way. |
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> > > >> If you want to receive grants/donations from other 501c3 |
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> > > >organizations |
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> > > >> you will be far more likely to get them if you are yourself a 501c3 |
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> > > >> organization. These transactions receive far less scrutiny than |
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> > > >> transfers from 501c3s to other types of corporations. |
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> https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/106055a4c7b58694172f392e0279ec47 |
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> > -A |
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> Seems folks had ideas, but you (really we/Trustees) did not respond. Of |
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> course, it also seems many tried to divert the idea of spending any |
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> money without consulting Robin as the lead for finanances. |
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Yeah I think continuing the finances will help. |
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> For the record, Robin calcualted (IMHO, very well) what we could spend |
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> and what we couldn't. So, for those following this mail, please know |
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> that due diligence is completed before any funds are appropriated. Then |
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> and now. |
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I am also sad that we basically received no net new funding requests to the |
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Foundation. Everyone has ideas on how to spend money but no one is |
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executing anything. I think dillfridge was correct on that thread when he |
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said that the problem isn't necessarily money, but instead we lack the |
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people to execute on these ideas. We did the Nitrokey thing because people |
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did care and pushed that idea forward; getting financial approval for it |
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was straightforward |
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I see two main problems: |
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1) The main problem with efforts appears not to be a lack of money and |
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instead is a lack of leadership (e.g. someone pushing a project through.) |
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2) The foundation has been reticent to hire people to do this work for two |
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reasons. |
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a) The Foundation has often not wanted employees, or contractors; this |
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is mostly due to a lack of D&O insurance. |
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b) The Community has not been particularly receptive to paid vs unpaid |
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developers; we would need some method to manage this. |
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-A |
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> -- |
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> Cheers, |
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> Aaron |
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