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On Mon, 03 Oct 2016 11:22:45 -0400 William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: |
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> > His recent output is quite sufficient to come to a decision. |
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> This is after I had been contributing and working well for a few months. Any |
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> situation was once again cause by comrel dredging up the past. Here is factual |
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> proof! |
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William, when you just started your thread, I read through your dev |
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bug and I decided to keep quiet of what I saw there because this is |
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a matter of the past. But since you brought yourself the very issue |
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that caught my attention, I can't be quiet any longer. |
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> [16:00:06] <jlec> wltjr: hi |
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> [16:00:22] <jlec> wltjr: we have a slight problem. |
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> [16:00:45] <jlec> it seems you have a track record in gentoo which I was not |
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> aware of. |
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> [16:01:52] <jlec> The other comrel members demanded some contributions from |
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> your side to judge how you are working in a team these days |
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> [16:03:18] <jlec> "I would like to keep the review limited to 1 maybe 2 hours |
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> max" is something which shouldn't be in there. It is not up to you to decide |
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> when we are finished. |
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> [16:03:18] <jlec> But as you have lots of knowledge I am sure we won't have |
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> long sessions |
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> [16:04:33] <jlec> wltjr: So I would like to ask to do contributions via the |
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> rsync2git or proxy-maint project and get involved in gentoo via bgo, irc and |
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> overlays so that the team gets confident in your returning. |
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> https://135927.bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=397252 |
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Just let's be honest and cite another snippet of the very same file: |
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TR;DR: you made a personal abuse on a recruiter trying to help you. |
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[16:06:07] <wltjr> jlec: you can ask java team members... I have been porting java-config to C from python.... |
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[16:06:17] <wltjr> jlec: what more work do you want to see? |
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[16:06:22] <jlec> wltjr: I think the social part is more important. |
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[16:06:32] <wltjr> jlec: I have submitted ebuilds in bugzilla, I pointed out one |
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[16:06:45] <wltjr> jlec: again go into #gentoo-java and talk to those I work with if you want to know |
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[16:06:57] <wltjr> jlec: if you want to bring up social bs, then your not actually concerned with technical contributions and the rest |
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[16:07:13] <wltjr> jlec: and again my track record speaks for itself, I got gentoo a bank account, redid by laws, and got it legal again |
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[16:07:24] <wltjr> jlec: no one else in gentoo has done that, and since then the foundation has fallen aside |
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[16:07:37] <wltjr> jlec: so ask yourself, do you want packages in portage updated no one has in 8 years? |
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[16:07:51] <wltjr> things like servletapi still remain, despite my efforst to remove in 2008... |
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[16:08:10] <wltjr> fine by me if gentoo does not have tomcat 8 or ipv6 support qmail, all other distros do.... |
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[16:08:56] <jlec> All that can be contributed by rsync2git and proxy-maint project |
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[16:09:15] <wltjr> jlec: I got grief last time from those in devrel and I had comments about devrel going away, and where is devrel now gone, merged into comrel with userel.... |
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[16:09:23] <jlec> Of course we like to see your contributions, but technical aspect aren't everything |
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[16:09:27] <wltjr> jlec: ok never mind, thanks for being the same as others |
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[16:09:34] <wltjr> jlec: bye |
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[16:10:56] <jlec> wltjr: that behaviour you are showing right now is on spot with the concerns of the team. You should start prooving the oposite. |
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[16:12:38] <wltjr> jlec: dude I care less you have things so twisted |
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[16:12:50] <wltjr> how has anyone been helpful? why should I be any different |
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[16:13:11] <wltjr> am I being shown respect? thanks for contributions? or willingness to do what others have not in 7+ years |
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[16:13:25] <wltjr> jlec: are you trying to improve gentoo or not? for real, this social crap is BS |
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[16:13:43] <wltjr> jlec: I have gotten that same crap for many years now, and you expect me to be any differnet? |
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[16:14:04] <wltjr> jlec: you cannot bring up a single technical issue with my work then and now, if all you have to go in is social then.... |
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[16:14:14] <wltjr> jlec: but specifically what have I done bad socially recently tell me? |
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[16:14:14] <jlec> wltjr: exactly that. Be different. |
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[16:14:38] <jlec> wltjr: you told me how much disrepect other adn |
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[16:14:43] <wltjr> jlec: good luck with gentoo, gentoo needs to BE DIFFERENT |
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[16:14:51] <jlec> then tell me I am just like them |
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[16:14:53] <wltjr> jlec: fyi you have stupid questions on the quiz |
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[16:14:59] <jlec> that's a personal attack |
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[16:15:04] <wltjr> 21 on the end of ebuild quiz is stupid |
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[16:15:19] <jlec> let me see |
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As I see it from the log above, jlec was nice to you and tried to |
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help you to return: recommended you to contribute via other means |
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for a while until devs will be confident that you are nice to |
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others. And you abused him right away :( |
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This caught my attention because jlec was my recruiter as well and |
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I well remember how tactful, helpful and nice he was at this job. |
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And abusing him was rather unfair. |
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I hope that you changed since that conversation, but IMHO you |
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should prove that for community. The simplest way is to work on |
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technical stuff and doesn't engage in everything else for a while. |
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Best regards, |
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Andrew Savchenko |
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