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On Sun, 11 May 2014 14:06:34 -0400 |
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Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o> |
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> > 3) contact multiple persons from the arch teams to be fully aware, |
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> > answers ranging from "Samuli can do that" [a personal |
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> > exception?] to "That's rude" [the opposite of that exception?]; so, |
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> > confusing; |
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> Honestly, vague accusations don't serve much purpose here. |
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> Either keep details private to protect identities if you want to talk |
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> about something in general, or just come out and say what you're |
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> concerned with so that we can talk about it in specific. Naming names |
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> but not the details is basically the worst of both worlds... |
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It is an example, not an accusation; it is a heavily redacted detail, |
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without naming any names. This is just yet another case to learn from. |
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Maybe I should go have a drink with Samuli and laugh about the event. |
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> Rumor has it [...] |
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That's a good song; reading its lyrics, it might fit the situation... :) |
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> I don't really see a need for personal exceptions. |
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To give that context, it was meant to suggest a lot of developers, |
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given that they make use of sufficient arch testing practices; not just |
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Samuli in specific, I apologize for the unintended word "personal". |
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> We haven't really been super-organized as a project in recent years, |
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> so I'm not sure anybody can really speak for the team as a whole. |
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That's the impression I get from talking to multiple arch members, I'm |
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told different things; I think the arch team is used to their habits, |
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thus communication is no longer common, which causes thoughts to shift. |
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> Honestly, concern about devs messing with stable keywords should |
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> probably just be brought to the attention of arch teams and left at |
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> that. QA is everybody's business, and this seems like QA, but in this |
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> sort of case the arch teams are in a better position to decide if |
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> there is a problem. |
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Yes, that's why I've told Alon to talk to Samuli and the arch teams; |
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with the intention to have them sort this out with each other, without |
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the need to escalate this to teams like QA, ComRel, Council. |
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But I'm someone that respects communication, documentation and policy; |
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call it being afraid of failure, I want to do things the right way. OCD |
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Perhaps that devmanual reference made Samuli upset; if so, sorry... |
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With kind regards, |
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Tom Wijsman (TomWij) |
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