Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Gentoo Recruiters need your help!

[Justin (jlec)]

On 17/11/14 12:43, Manuel Rüger wrote:
> On 17.11.2014 11:27, Justin (jlec) wrote:
>> On 17/11/14 11:16, Manuel Rüger wrote:
>>> On 17.11.2014 10:39, Justin (jlec) wrote:
>>>> On 16/11/14 18:19, Mikle Kolyada wrote: After all, i noticed,
>>>>> not all new developers understand what they must to do ( i
>>>>> have an example, but it's another discussion)
>>>
>>>> It is crucial that report such things to us so that we can
>>>> guide the mentors more closely. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> I know the recruiters teams is short on time, but feedback to
>>> mentors is really appreciated (at least I do). Maybe you could
>>> push a short mail to the mentors after you set up the new dev?
>>> This could include the recruiter-reviewed quizzes (so the mentor
>>> can diff with the one she or he reviewed. Better prereviews means
>>> less work for the recruiters) and a note that the mentor has to
>>> check the commits of the new dev in the first month (this should
>>> be already known by the mentor, but a subtle hint doesn't harm.
>>> Maybe add some best practices for that).
>>>
>
>> Hi Manuel,
>
>> when the recruitment is done, you should get notified through the
>> bug tracker and by your mentee that the real business starts. There
>> is not additional mail required. Your mentee also can provide you
>> all the information like fixed quizzes, review session logs etc.
>
>> Justin
>
>
> Hi Justin,
>
> I'm aware of that, but I doubt many mentors will ask their mentees for
> this information, so this becomes a push-vs-pull problem.
>
> Looking into the webapp, I get the feeling that mentors have different
> levels of expectations what's an acceptable answer. Some accept really
> brief answers, others "torture" their mentees in detail.
>
> I'm sure you as a recruiter know better if my assumption is valid.
> So at least mentors that accept brief answers could profit from
> reading recruiter-reviewed quizzes. An alternative to this would be
> expanding the webapp to show minimal requirements for each answer to
> the mentor.

Hi Manuel,

the difference in torture level results in more or less well prepared mentees.
If a mentor is really taking time to go through everything, the recruitment
session with the recruiter are going very fast. Otherwise we need to explain and
teach.

I don't think a mentor will start on its own to critically review it's own
performance. We would rather need a training/supervision of mentors including
detailed feedback at the end.

The recruiter a quite understaffed, so I would suggest to organize as a
senior/junior mentor thing. We have really great senior mentors like swift, who
provide always well prepared mentees. Would is possible to do it that way?


Justin