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From: Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Date-of-birth in developer applications
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:20:59
Message-Id: 20180620152053.aluck5zobql2mabg@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Date-of-birth in developer applications by "Michał Górny"
1 On 18-06-20 10:16:01, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > Hello, everyone.
3 >
4 > I'd like to revive the topic of requiring date-of-birth for developers.
5 > Currently, we 'require' this date in developer applications and store it
6 > in our LDAP (it's not public). However, I'm not aware of any good
7 > justification for collecting this kind of personal information.
8 >
9 > The Trustees are apparently 'researching' the topic since at least
10 > Feb 2017 [1], and haven't reached anything yet [2]. In the meantime,
11 > applicants are asked to provide their DoB with no clear explanation why
12 > they need to do that or how it's going to be used (the last part of dev
13 > quiz [3]).
14 >
15 > So unless someone can provide *a really good reason* to request this
16 > kind of information, I'd like to propose that we remove the question
17 > from the developer quiz, and remove collected birthday dates from LDAP.
18 >
19 > What do you think?
20 >
21 > [1]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Meetings/2017/02#prometheanfire
22 > [2]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Foundation:Meetings/2018/06#alicef
23 > [3]:https://projects.gentoo.org/comrel/recruiters/quizzes/developer-quiz.txt
24 >
25
26 This is my intrepretation / rememberance of events.
27
28 So, what originally brought this up was that the copyright assignment
29 currently done is essensially a legal agreement. In order for it to be
30 legal we would like to verify that both parties are ABLE to enter into a
31 legal agreement. We discussed assertation of that ability and I think
32 we were happy with that. At that point the proposal of the FLA came up
33 and has since stalled us in rendering a final decision. The reason for
34 the stall is that we'd prefer to use the FLA as guideance for
35 verification requirements.
36
37 So, at this point we still record the date of birth. I don't think that
38 is needed. Just the verification is needed (and even that is
39 questionable in the strict sense). I think changing this to record the
40 result of the verification and preferably the method (ID checked,
41 assertation, etc) would be sufficient. It'd also lessen our storage of
42 personal data (which is good from a 'less PII is better' and GDPR
43 perspective).
44
45 --
46 Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)

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