Re: [gentoo-project] Social Contract clean-up

[Daniel Robbins]

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 11:41 PM, Daniel Robbins <drobbins@××××××.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 9:59 PM, Dean Stephens <desultory@g.o>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> As you have a stated position, specifically that this User
>> Representatives proposal would resolve (largely unspecified) problems
>>
>
> I think I have been clear on the problems, but I can try to be more clear.
> The Council are Gentoo developers who are voted upon by Gentoo developers,
> and there is no clear accountability to any outside group.
>
> There are severe behavioral problems on the Council right now. There is a
> lack of enforcement of behavioral standards upon Council members, even
> though the Council is in theory responsible for defining these standards.
>
> I think the responses to my proposal demonstrate that the Gentoo developer
> culture is isolated and protective of its own interests, not interested in
> accountability (no responses saying "yes, Council members *should* indeed
> be held to the same standards they hold others" -- isn't this obvious?),
> and in need of reform.
>

I will also add that there are a lot of great people on the project who
just want to code and tend to keep quiet. And if you talk to this group,
rather than the outspoken group that tends to post to mailing lists, there
is an understanding that there is room for improvement and that reasonable
steps should be taken to help the project. Certainly there is a diversity
of opinion here but I think that people who have been on the project a
while have seen some things happen that have been pretty distasteful and
know who the behavioral problems are.

Best,

Daniel