Re: [gentoo-project] Meeting agenda - Council meeting 2018-04-08

[Matthew Thode]

On 18-04-07 14:32:38, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o> wrote:
> > On 18-04-07 08:39:39, Michał Górny wrote:
> >> W dniu pią, 06.04.2018 o godzinie 17∶27 -0500, użytkownik Matthew Thode
> >> napisał:
> >> > On 18-04-07 00:16:20, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> >> > > Am Freitag, 6. April 2018, 21:46:31 CEST schrieb David Abbott:
> >> > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If nothing else this might also be a way to reduce the workload on the
> >> > > > > Foundation so that they can focus more on getting the paperwork caught
> >> > > > > up vs actually having to pay for infra.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So the funding is coming from the council? What will SPI use to pay infra
> >> > > > with?
> >> > >
> >> > > Funding is coming from the same sources as where it comes from now. Given that
> >> > > the new association starts from zero, it will in the beginning not have much
> >> > > money.
> >> > >
> >> > > Just see it as having a second bank account, or having a second payment
> >> > > provider in parallel.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure what it'd get us, we've had and have multple accounts
> >> > already.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Let me put it bluntly like this: all of our current resources are
> >> endangered by incompetence of Trustees since the forming
> >> of the Foundation. You can trivialize the problem this as much as
> >> you need to but this is the fact until we have a really good
> >> confirmation that the paperwork is clean.
> >>
> >
> > Thanks, at least it's finally admitted why this is a topic.  Are you
> > willing to help clear up the paperwork?  It's not an easy task.  IIRC
> > the only remaining task to finish is the tax work.  Once that's done it
> > unblocks many things.
> >
>
> IMO one of the biggest weaknesses of our current model is that there
> is paperwork to complete in the first place.
>
> If there are ways to reduce the overall risk without having to
> actually deal with the paperwork it would be desirable to consider
> them.
>
> That said, if somebody is willing to fix things, it certainly would
> help.  That is, if we use that as an opportunity to fix the underlying
> issues instead of just calling it done and waiting for the paperwork
> to end up being behind by a few years again.
>

If you think we are willing to fall behind again I think you are
mistaken.  The trustees have been left to piece together a puzzle that
was left unattended for a long time, long enough that some pieces have
gone missing.  Once that puzzle is back together it'll be an entirely
diferent level of effort to keep together (or add to).  Right now we
don't want to add to it as that could complicate the process of piecing
it back together.

-- 
Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)