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On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 11:49:45 -0400 |
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"William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Thursday, October 13, 2016 5:27:39 PM EDT Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > No, the appeal is pointless because it's far too late for it to make |
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> > any sense. As you say, it was 8 years ago |
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> Not the events in 2015. |
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Ok. Then take an appropriate action instead of justifying them by your |
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further behavior. |
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> > And do something about your ego. Yes, we know you were the most |
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> > important person in the whole world, you already told us that. You |
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> > and your old friends, most of whom are not involved in Gentoo anymore. |
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> > That's all cool but that's the past. Now there are new people |
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> > in Gentoo, whether you like it or not. Those new people have put a lot |
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> > of effort into various aspects of Gentoo. Now those people are Gentoo |
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> > developers, and you are a newcomer to them. |
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> Thank you for the insults! |
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> New people or not, old problems still remain, and things that were not done in |
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> the past still have not been done. So what are these new people doing? |
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They are doing what they can. We're volunteers, you know. |
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> > If you want to do something about Gentoo, then do it. But start |
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> > respecting the others, not only the people who made up Gentoo back |
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> > in your days, and stop expecting to suddenly get all the privileges |
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> > that you had many years ago back. |
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> Where is my respect for my contributions to the foundation? It was never given |
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> any respect for my work in 2008 nor now. Though when I speak with others who |
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> know what I did, the situation tends to be different. |
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> To get respect you must show respect. Others do not show me respect, and |
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> wonder why I do not in return? |
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You're turning it around. Expect respect for the past from the past |
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developers. If you start with disrespect to current developers, don't |
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expect respect in return. |
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> > Gentoo developers aren't perfect. We can live with many toxic people |
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> > because they are able to give Gentoo something in return. However, if |
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> > the potential issues clearly overrule the potential benefit... |
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> Given many have less commits, and did less in the past than I did, much less |
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> the present or future. That is a futile argument. |
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Again your ego. We are really tired of hearing how much better you are, |
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really. |
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> Who is working with the IRS? Why is that not in line since 2008 or ever? |
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> Who is working on Gentoo Java? Or other things not maintained in tree since |
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> 2008? |
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> The reason for preventing both? Who am I putting off from working with the |
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> IRS? Why did no one show since 2008. That cannot be because of me, I was not |
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> around. |
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> Why is there no one doing Java stuff on Gentoo? Who am I putting off from |
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> doing that work? |
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> Stupid arguments that contradict facts... |
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Don't use the neglect of various areas of Gentoo as an excuse to |
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give you full privileges. |
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You had more than one opportunity to contribute in various areas. If |
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you believe Comrel or whoever you have a problem with is wrong, prove |
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it. Prove that you can healthily work with others. |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |
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<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/> |
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