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From: "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@××××××.com>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Groups under the Council or Foundation: the structure & processes thereof
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:49:58
Message-Id: assp.0094401ee8.4717402.IGHAYZZ4Ip@wlt
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Groups under the Council or Foundation: the structure & processes thereof by "Michał Górny"
1 On Thursday, October 13, 2016 5:27:39 PM EDT Michał Górny wrote:
2 >
3 > No, the appeal is pointless because it's far too late for it to make
4 > any sense. As you say, it was 8 years ago
5
6 Not the events in 2015.
7
8 > Get over it. Move on with
9 > your life. It's all fun to hear stories of the past but hearing random
10 > parts of your story over and over again is past bearing of most of
11 > the people on this mailing list, other mailing lists, IRC and wherever
12 > you keep sending them.
13
14 I have, Comrel brought up the past from 2008 as initial reason to prevent my
15 return in 2015.
16
17 > And do something about your ego. Yes, we know you were the most
18 > important person in the whole world, you already told us that. You
19 > and your old friends, most of whom are not involved in Gentoo anymore.
20 > That's all cool but that's the past. Now there are new people
21 > in Gentoo, whether you like it or not. Those new people have put a lot
22 > of effort into various aspects of Gentoo. Now those people are Gentoo
23 > developers, and you are a newcomer to them.
24
25 Thank you for the insults!
26
27 New people or not, old problems still remain, and things that were not done in
28 the past still have not been done. So what are these new people doing?
29
30 > If you want to do something about Gentoo, then do it. But start
31 > respecting the others, not only the people who made up Gentoo back
32 > in your days, and stop expecting to suddenly get all the privileges
33 > that you had many years ago back.
34
35 Where is my respect for my contributions to the foundation? It was never given
36 any respect for my work in 2008 nor now. Though when I speak with others who
37 know what I did, the situation tends to be different.
38
39 To get respect you must show respect. Others do not show me respect, and
40 wonder why I do not in return?
41
42 > Gentoo developers aren't perfect. We can live with many toxic people
43 > because they are able to give Gentoo something in return. However, if
44 > the potential issues clearly overrule the potential benefit...
45
46 Given many have less commits, and did less in the past than I did, much less
47 the present or future. That is a futile argument.
48
49 Who is working with the IRS? Why is that not in line since 2008 or ever?
50
51 Who is working on Gentoo Java? Or other things not maintained in tree since
52 2008?
53
54 The reason for preventing both? Who am I putting off from working with the
55 IRS? Why did no one show since 2008. That cannot be because of me, I was not
56 around.
57
58 Why is there no one doing Java stuff on Gentoo? Who am I putting off from
59 doing that work?
60
61 Stupid arguments that contradict facts...
62
63 --
64 William L. Thomson Jr.

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