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From: "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:42:10
Message-Id: 54E1F400.8020103@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract by Seemant Kulleen
1 On 02/15/15 14:23, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
2 > Note: not replying directly to Ciaran (I fully agree with what you said, C
3 > and Michal)
4 >
5 > Question: do any of the scenarios truly threaten Gentoo's existence?
6 >
7 > Or is it just that things might be a pain in the butt if Github becomes
8 > unavailable?
9 >
10 > Let's say GitHub does change its policies and go full-douchebag -- is it
11 > really the case that Gento would be alone in being screwed, or perhaps the
12 > numerous open source projects on there would result in another something
13 > replacing it?
14 >
15 > Would love to see a little less fear around here.
16
17 Its fine as long as infra is the centre of our operations. Because
18 github is so much better than cvs provided by infra (sorry infra its
19 true) I worry that we'll depend on it too much. To be honest, I love
20 the entire github workflow and would feel much better if we could just
21 own it ourselves.
22
23 Its unlikely github will go full-douchebag with its TOS. Its more
24 likely they will do what freecode.com (aka freshmeat.com) did. Just
25 close shop on day 0.
26
27 Finally it depends what you mean by "existance". I've seen companies
28 exert pressures that morph things into what they should not be. A
29 healthy amount of distances here is good. I like our autonomony.
30
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32 >
33 >
34 > *--seemantk Empathic Design*
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37 >
38 >
39 > On 15 February 2015 at 11:08, Ciaran McCreesh <
40 > ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
41 >
42 >> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:39:16 -0500
43 >> "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o> wrote:
44 >>> On 02/15/15 12:42, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
45 >>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:17:54 -0500
46 >>>> "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o> wrote:
47 >>>>> But the big difference here is that github is a company while infra
48 >>>>> is volunteer work.
49 >>>> And the equipment and hosting is paid for by...
50 >>>>
51 >>> You mean the folks like osuosl or other institutions run by
52 >>> grants :P Or is that not the answer you were expecting?
53 >> No, that's exactly what I mean. What if OSUOSL or some other
54 >> institution decides they'll pull funding unless the entire Gentoo
55 >> Gnome team is fired? Or what if the government funding them announces
56 >> that they can't use their money to accept contributions from or
57 >> give benefit to countries in the Axis of Evil?
58 >>
59 >> The idea that Gentoo is currently immune to these kinds of pressures,
60 >> but suddenly wouldn't be if Github were to be used for hosting, isn't
61 >> really grounded in reality...
62 >>
63 >> --
64 >> Ciaran McCreesh
65 >>
66
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69 Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D.
70 Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract Michael Jones <gentoo@×××××××.com>