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On Thursday, January 5, 2017 2:15:36 PM EST Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: |
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> On 04/01/2017 20:12, Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > Isn't barrier of entry to Gentoo high enough already? I know many |
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> > people refusing to join because they consider quizzes |
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> > and the recruitment procedure to be too cumbersome and a waste of time. |
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> > I can imagine requiring people to actually travel and make appointments |
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> > with other Gentoo developers will only make things worse. |
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> +1 |
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> By the way, now with git, why don't we change from quizzes to just |
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> "submitted X high-quality PRs and got support from Z existing committers"? |
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+1 |
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There also needs to be something in place for returning Developers, who are |
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not green, and likely do not need to go through all the same recruitment |
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processes. But Gentoo has never addressed that, and returning developers seem |
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pretty rare. |
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Also while I agree, there is still a need for minimal technical quizzes. There |
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is some benefit to the technical sides. At the same time some may only be |
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interested in very limited things, and taking the various quizzes as is now, |
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does not make sense. |
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Like take icedtea/openjdk. It does not make sense for the maintainer, RedHat |
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employee to go through normal Gentoo recruitment. They will most likely NEVER |
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touch any other package, unless it directly relates to icedtea/openjdk. |
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That icedtea is mostly developed on Gentoo, but the person is not a Gentoo |
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developer due to Gentoo recruitment policies I think is dumb. Gentoo could |
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have the author as a Developer, in addition to a RedHat employee. That would |
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further put Gentoo in its role as helping to further develop FOSS Java. Which |
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again all icedtea/openjdk efforts originate on Gentoo, then go to Fedora, |
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RHEL, Debian, etc... |
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It has driven me nuts for years, stupid Gentoo policies prevent such. The |
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result is a developer constantly has to proxy icedtea/openjdk stuff from java- |
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overlay to tree. Rather than it being done in tree from the start.... |
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I also do not see to many companies, being willing to pay people to spend time |
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taking Gentoo quizzes and going through Gentoo recruitment. Just like the java |
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situation, RedHat is not going to pay them to become a Gentoo Dev. But RedHat |
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is paying for FOSS Java development. That is expecting anyone who may need to |
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work on Gentoo for their employer have to do somethings like recruitment in |
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their off hours. Or just contribute from outside and never become a Developer. |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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