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On śro, 2017-05-17 at 01:54 -0500, Dale wrote: |
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> Michał Górny wrote: |
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> > On wto, 2017-05-16 at 17:17 -0500, Dale wrote: |
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> > > Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> > > > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > > > > What stops me, is seeing someone who wants to help get shut down by others |
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> > > > > just because they don't like him and in my opinion, targets him whenever |
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> > > > > possible. |
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> > > > |
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> > > > You're making assumptions about motives. The fact is that you don't |
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> > > > have any knowledge about why some people aren't welcome in the |
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> > > > community. |
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> > > |
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> > > Actually, I'm basing it on what I can clearly see. If I can see it, |
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> > > don't you think others can too? Again, ignoring it, trying to force |
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> > > people not to talk about it, doesn't help the problem. Like I said, I |
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> > > been around Gentoo for a long time. I won't be a dev because of lots of |
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> > > things over the years I've seen happen, most of them in public. |
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> > |
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> > No. You won't become a dev because you are not doing *anything* but |
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> > talking. Just like a number of other people on this mailing list who are |
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> > rejected because of lack of willingness to do anything useful, and then |
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> > they claim that they reject Gentoo because it is so bad. |
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> > Just FYI because I'm getting tired of this recurring theme. |
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> > |
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> So you are ignoring some of the possible solutions and changes I |
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> included in my other posts? That is called doing something and I might |
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> add, is more than most others are doing. Most others seem to want to |
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> ignore the problems for a while longer. Then wonder why people keep |
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> talking about it. |
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No, I am ignoring most of your posts because I do not have time to read |
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them. Those parts which I've read are long and talk of nothing. As far |
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as I'm concerned, your contributions are 90% wasting others' time on |
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reading what you wrote. |
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Before you start solving problems in Gentoo, focus on problems with |
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yourself. |
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> Do you have any solutions you would like to post? Or do you just want |
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> to ignore that someone just posted that they are "incredibly |
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> disappointed in the Gentoo Java team."? How many more need to post |
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> something like that before you actually post something that will help |
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> solve the problem? Let's hear your ideas on a solution. |
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One good solution would be to kick most of the non-developers out of |
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this mailing list, so that discussion can focus back on Gentoo, and not |
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on self-pity of one ex-dev diverted so any times that I have no idea |
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what the topic is anymore. Last I read, it's about who is trolling who, |
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and why trolling is good as long as you pretend it's important. |
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Then maybe people will have time to work on Gentoo rather than be |
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distracted by useless spam. Then maybe they will be able to accept |
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contributions. |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |