1 |
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Daniel Robbins <drobbins@××××××.org> wrote: |
2 |
> |
3 |
> The basic delineation that people should (start) to use is that the Council |
4 |
> directly runs the project, and the Trustees oversee issues related to the |
5 |
> long-term health of the project. The Council is the executive team, and the |
6 |
> trustees are the board of directors. |
7 |
> |
8 |
|
9 |
If that were truly the model then the Council would be responsible for |
10 |
running the Foundation's operations, including budget/taxes/etc. |
11 |
Certainly in any business this is a task the board delegates to the |
12 |
executive. |
13 |
|
14 |
You obviously understand the intended model here better than anybody |
15 |
else, but this isn't really the reality on the ground today, |
16 |
regardless of how we ended up here. |
17 |
|
18 |
The reality today is that the Council has been running all |
19 |
non-financial/business aspects of the distro for some time, and the |
20 |
Trustees have been minding the finance/legal/compliance side of |
21 |
things. |
22 |
|
23 |
The problem is that very few members of the Gentoo community are |
24 |
really interested in operating a non-profit Foundation. Those who |
25 |
have should be commended for doing anything at all because they're |
26 |
unpaid volunteers. However, the reality is that we haven't been able |
27 |
to keep up with things. |
28 |
|
29 |
Normally an executive is accountable to a board, but this is |
30 |
inappropriate in this case because I suspect a majority of those |
31 |
casting votes for Council/Trustee members have not been electing |
32 |
people into the Trustee positions that they wish to exercise oversight |
33 |
over the Council. Rather they're just picking the best options they |
34 |
can from a very limited slate of candidates, and in several recent |
35 |
years there hasn't even been an election due to a lack of candidates. |
36 |
At least we're better off than we were a few years ago when we failed |
37 |
to even fill all the slots. |
38 |
|
39 |
There is a lack of interest in running for Trustees for a number of reasons: |
40 |
|
41 |
1. Most of us are here because we're interested in running a linux |
42 |
distro, not maintaining budgets and filing taxes. |
43 |
2. Because of the general state of neglect historically some have |
44 |
legal concerns with being associated with the board, since this could |
45 |
create personal liability. |
46 |
3. In general being a member of a board can create legal/compliance |
47 |
issues with other obligations. Many who are employed might need |
48 |
approval from their employers to take on this role. This is |
49 |
especially true of those who are likely most qualified to do the work. |
50 |
4. The Foundation's resources are pretty limited, which makes it |
51 |
difficult to pay our way out of these issues. We can't just go write |
52 |
a check for $200k to KPMG/etc to get them to fix everything for us. |
53 |
Obviously we try to be as efficient as possible so $50k goes a long |
54 |
way towards running our servers/etc, but when you start getting into |
55 |
professional services this kind of money would basically pay for an |
56 |
assessment and a few meetings or maybe a small project. |
57 |
|
58 |
And then this is compounded by our understaffing in general. |
59 |
|
60 |
So, on one hand we should be grateful for those who do run for |
61 |
Foundation positions and who are trying to fix the |
62 |
financial/compliance side of things. On the other hand many are |
63 |
concerned because a lot of people with complaints seem to see the |
64 |
Trustees as a way to basically try to overrule the Council. |
65 |
|
66 |
There are a couple of potential ways to solve this problem but none of |
67 |
them are going to work without agreement across the Council/Trustees. |
68 |
A challenge here is that the Council is largely composed of people who |
69 |
want nothing to do with running a non-profit, and the Trustees are |
70 |
largely composed of people who were interested enough in running a |
71 |
non-profit that they undertook a rather painful job to try to fix |
72 |
things. So, as soon as the question comes up as to whether long-term |
73 |
we even want to run an independent Foundation we end up with |
74 |
disagreement between the two bodies. |
75 |
|
76 |
I don't think that anybody involved means ill by any of this. There |
77 |
are just differences of opinion and the problem is that due to some of |
78 |
the legal problems with the Foundation it is hard to drive to some |
79 |
kind of consolidation of power that might resolve things. I'd suggest |
80 |
that devs who want to get rid of the Foundation should run for Trustee |
81 |
slots so as to create an actual opportunity for the members to have a |
82 |
choice when they vote, but this requires devs who are mainly |
83 |
interested in getting rid of the Foundation to basically assume legal |
84 |
responsibility for running the Foundation that they mainly want to get |
85 |
rid of. If the Foundation was sitting on a big bank account so that |
86 |
this activity could be self-funded that might be more appealing, |
87 |
because they could just take over, direct the Foundation to hire a |
88 |
bunch of lawyers to turn things over to the new owners, and then vote |
89 |
themselves out of a job. |
90 |
|
91 |
One thing that might help for the long-term would be to try to isolate |
92 |
the problems. Rather than continuing to have the Foundation keep |
93 |
buying new servers/etc, perhaps it would make sense to start a new |
94 |
funding model in parallel (whether an independent corp, or an umbrella |
95 |
org, etc), and have all new operations be funded out of that, with |
96 |
donations being directed to it. Then the Foundation would be operated |
97 |
so as to deplete its assets until it owns little more than the |
98 |
trademark/copyrights, and a mountain of legal issues. That reduces |
99 |
the problem to one of rescuing the IP without the need to actually run |
100 |
the day-to-day. With no new financial transactions going onto the |
101 |
books it also makes the problems more finite. But, I am not a lawyer |
102 |
so perhaps there is an issue with an approach like this. |
103 |
|
104 |
I think what matters most is coming up with something sustainable |
105 |
moving forward. Fixing the past is painful, but there is little point |
106 |
in it if we can't even keep up with the present. Even if everything |
107 |
were in good standing right now I have no confidence that we have the |
108 |
processes in place to ensure they remain in good standing, which means |
109 |
any effort we spend fixing the past is all for nothing. On the other |
110 |
hand, if things were fine going forward we could figure out what it |
111 |
would take to fix the past, and then have a donation drive or |
112 |
something to deal with it and people would feel more confident in |
113 |
giving because they know that things are in good hands moving forward. |
114 |
I don't think we could honestly call for such a thing today. |
115 |
|
116 |
I think that if you asked around most community members would just |
117 |
prefer to not have to own servers/IP/etc at all. If such a thing were |
118 |
practical it would let us focus on actually running a distro and not a |
119 |
business empire. |
120 |
|
121 |
Again, my goal here isn't to slight Trustees, past or present (myself |
122 |
among them historically). They're volunteers, and we're getting what |
123 |
we paid for. |
124 |
|
125 |
Hopefully this explains why I have concerns with increasing the scope |
126 |
of the Trustees/Foundation. IMO in the long term we ought to be |
127 |
reducing the Foundation to a shell that will ultimately go away, and |
128 |
increasing its scope is going backwards. If the Foundation were |
129 |
actually healthy I might feel differently, but right now I see it as |
130 |
the biggest source of risk in Gentoo right now. |
131 |
|
132 |
-- |
133 |
Rich |