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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Bylaw proposal: Amend Section 4.3. Admission of Members: automatic developer membership
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 19:24:57
Message-Id: CAGfcS_=x2qYN37KUUrAk3mjU0KgmhjrkPj9gQiNAMUz6CcbgPA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Bylaw proposal: Amend Section 4.3. Admission of Members: automatic developer membership by "Robin H. Johnson"
1 On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@g.o> wrote:
2 > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 05:16:48AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
3 >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@g.o> wrote:
4 >> > TL;DR: move comrel, infra, PR to Foundation. Have strict(er) application
5 >> > of policies to them in line with their powers.
6 >> 1. I don't think we ought to be giving more power to the Foundation
7 >> until the Foundation membership is re-aligned with the distro
8 >> developer membership. We essentially have two democratic
9 >> organizations with overlapping but different constituencies, and I'm
10 >> not sure Gentoo could survive if they start trying to pull the distro
11 >> in different directions since the community seems like it is barely
12 >> above critical mass as it is.
13 > Should we amend the bylaws such that all active developers are
14 > automatically members of the Foundation, without specifically applying?
15 > Thereafter, on developer retirement, failing to cast a vote in two
16 > consecutive elections will end their membership.
17 > Non-developers can still apply as before.
18
19 I think we should amend it, but I suggest before starting that we
20 finish figuring out what we want the final picture to look like.
21 Amending the bylaws is the means, not the end.
22
23 I think that retired devs should be immediately removed. Activity
24 should be more than just voting.
25
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27 Rich