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On 2022-07-17 15:08, William Hubbs wrote: |
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> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 11:27:56AM +0500, Anna wrote: |
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> > On 2022-07-16 14:56, John Helmert III wrote: |
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> > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 06:35:32PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 5:43 PM William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 04:33:43PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: |
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> > > > > > I just found out while I was on vacation about Github's copilot feature. |
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> > > > > It looks like the SFC is urging foss developers to ditch github over |
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> > > > > this. |
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> > > > I get the sentiment, but I don't see what direct impact it will have. |
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> > > > If Gentoo stops using Github all our code will inevitably still be on |
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> > > > there and will still end up being used to train copilot. |
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> > > Inevitably? If most of our activity moves somewhere else, I don't see |
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> > > why we couldn't blow away all of https://github.com/gentoo. |
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> > Very bad idea. That would break sync mirrors for hundreds of users. |
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> The last time I checked, we only rely officially on *.gentoo.org (gentoo |
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> infra) per our social contract as primary infrastructure. I think we |
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> need to be sure users understand that github.com/gentoo is secondary and |
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> could go away any time. |
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If you just sync from GitHub, you don't use any proprietary software |
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(only non-free JavaScript is problematic). |
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And there are reasons to use GitHub mirror instead of our anongit, which |
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is like 100 times slower (since it doesn't use any CDN). |
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Ditching GitHub is complicated since it requires to solve both technical |
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and humanitarian problems (how would you change people's habits if you |
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are just one FOSS community, and your opponent is a multi-billion |
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transnational corporation that can do literally anything in its |
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interests and avoid persecution?). |
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This stream of consciousness leads me to politics (our interests cannot |
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be protected if all important decisions are made by CEOs rather than |
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democratically), which doesn't really fit this list's topic, so I'll |
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stop here. I'd be happy to discuss it in private tho :) |
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