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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Cc: calchan@g.o, seemantk@×××××.com, rich0@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2014 / 2015 election
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 23:37:04
Message-Id: 20140705033649.67d2d1c5@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2014 / 2015 election by Denis Dupeyron
1 On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 13:50:12 -0600
2 Denis Dupeyron <calchan@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Seemant Kulleen <seemantk@×××××.com>
5 > wrote:
6 > > You're obviously frustrated (and you might even be giving voice to
7 > > more than just your own feeling, here).
8 >
9 > I think you're trying to read a little too far into that short message
10 > I wrote. I did not send it out of frustration or anger. It's not my
11 > habit to write public messages on a whim. As is usual with me, it took
12 > me a very long time to craft it exactly like I wanted, about one hour
13 > and a half in that case. And I meant exactly what I wrote, no less,
14 > but also no more.
15 >
16 > I said that because it had to be said (and is actually being said in
17 > smaller circles). I do not accept that anybody's position protects
18 > them from that or anything else. There is no place for royalty in
19 > Gentoo.
20
21 There is place for communication in Gentoo.
22
23 Communication takes time to master, to get the actual message across;
24 paragraphs without "I ..." constructs and hidden messages are effective.
25
26 Communication takes thought about how text is read by the receiver;
27 similarly, doing something is more effective than commanding something.
28
29 Communication takes the reader to AGF[1], ATPOABB[2], ...; messages are
30 rarely perfect, often they are interpreted in a different way[3].
31
32 Communication takes 2 sides; what you [positive] and [negative], tell
33 people more about what you [positive] to focus on what needs focus.
34
35 Consider that you can swap "communication" with "transparency"... :)
36
37 So; what are rich0, calchan, ... communicating about here and why?
38
39 The very first words are about "making ComRel more transparant";
40 thinking that through, it takes effort for an outsider to join a
41 team seeming to be solid where transparency is met with disagreement.
42
43 [1]:
44 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith
45
46 [2]:
47 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ben/Assume_the_presence_of_a_belly-button
48
49 [3]:
50 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_the_assumption_of_good_faith
51
52 --
53 With kind regards,
54
55 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
56 Gentoo Developer
57
58 E-mail address : TomWij@g.o
59 GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D
60 GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

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