Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals

[M. J. Everitt]

On 13/02/18 00:16, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> On 13/02/18 00:13, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:40 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote:
>>> On 12/02/18 23:02, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>>> Can you provide us with an example when such a scenario has happened
>>>> in the past 12 years of council, or is the above purely hypothetical?
>>>> Because in the latter case it is not an actual problem that needs to
>>>> be solved.
>>>>
>>>> It is not a game of Nomic that we're playing here, but we are trying
>>>> to run a distro. IMHO precluding council members from participating in
>>>> projects isn't helpful. Or do we really want a council that is sitting
>>>> in an ivory tower, completely detached from the daily distro work?
>>>>
>>> Uhm, what's the difference .. the council already live in their own land
>>> separate from most of the developers, and definitely from the user
>>> community at large ?
>>>
>>> Or at least, such is the perception .. [don't shoot the messenger and
>>> all that]
>>>
>> Such is your perception.  Most developers just cast their votes, and
>> hence the same council members keep getting re-elected.  I doubt that
>> would happen if most developers considered them aloof, especially
>> since the Council has always attracted a significant number of
>> election candidates.
>>
>> You can't judge something like this by mailing list posts.
>>
> My synopsis is gathered from a number of conversations, Rich, and
> definitely not the noise that emanates from both developers and
> non-developers on /any/ of the mailing lists ..
>
Although, it would be fair to say I was biased, since I'm not privy to
the ivy towers or clique that controls [sic] Gentoo ...

So far as it could also be said I was actively disliked by them already...