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From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 00:16:28
Message-Id: 953f39fd-a01f-ba03-0068-fd6acc8b40d5@iee.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals by Rich Freeman
1 On 13/02/18 00:13, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:40 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote:
3 >> On 12/02/18 23:02, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
4 >>> Can you provide us with an example when such a scenario has happened
5 >>> in the past 12 years of council, or is the above purely hypothetical?
6 >>> Because in the latter case it is not an actual problem that needs to
7 >>> be solved.
8 >>>
9 >>> It is not a game of Nomic that we're playing here, but we are trying
10 >>> to run a distro. IMHO precluding council members from participating in
11 >>> projects isn't helpful. Or do we really want a council that is sitting
12 >>> in an ivory tower, completely detached from the daily distro work?
13 >>>
14 >> Uhm, what's the difference .. the council already live in their own land
15 >> separate from most of the developers, and definitely from the user
16 >> community at large ?
17 >>
18 >> Or at least, such is the perception .. [don't shoot the messenger and
19 >> all that]
20 >>
21 > Such is your perception. Most developers just cast their votes, and
22 > hence the same council members keep getting re-elected. I doubt that
23 > would happen if most developers considered them aloof, especially
24 > since the Council has always attracted a significant number of
25 > election candidates.
26 >
27 > You can't judge something like this by mailing list posts.
28 >
29 My synopsis is gathered from a number of conversations, Rich, and
30 definitely not the noise that emanates from both developers and
31 non-developers on /any/ of the mailing lists ..

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