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From: Raymond Jennings <shentino@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Per-sender rate limiting our mailing lists
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 04:19:48
Message-Id: CAGDaZ_pxBKCBKYzxhjWyBfS4-5s2ir6tzVzA090S7ACR1QzQiQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Per-sender rate limiting our mailing lists by Kent Fredric
1 On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Kent Fredric <kentnl@g.o> wrote:
2 > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:22:26 -0400
3 > "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote:
4 >
5 >> It is sad when people cannot use means like Comrel or violations of
6 >> CoC to control things as they see fit. Then they seek other means to
7 >> limit, control, and filter people. That is hardly an open society, much
8 >> less accepting or tolerant.
9 >
10 > The best thing about a rate limit mechanism, is instead of having to single out and blacklist
11 > various egregious users who are an evident problem, and having to defend accusations of bias ....
12 >
13 > You get to target the behaviour in a way that applies to everyone equally.
14 >
15 > You can't claim somebody is getting special treatment that way.
16 >
17 > Or do you *want* special treatment?
18
19 My two cents:
20
21 We shouldn't treat everyone equally, but the basis of our
22 discrimination should be based on behavior, not identity.
23
24 A blind ratelimit would cause problems, since there are a number of
25 legitimate uses for rapid messages, of which kernel patches are one
26 such example.
27
28 What if the ratelimit was based on karma? Some sort of feedback
29 mechanism where list readers could up/down-vote specific senders based
30 on quality?
31
32 My hunch is that such a mechanism would naturally weed out
33 unproductive discussion.

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Re: [gentoo-project] Per-sender rate limiting our mailing lists Daniel Campbell <zlg@g.o>