| 1 |
On 29/03/2022 20.56, Mike Frysinger wrote: |
| 2 |
> starting a dedicated thread for |
| 3 |
> https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/ec2b560480627371a7bda5c85924eddd |
| 4 |
> |
| 5 |
> GH provides a lot of functionality for free that Gentoo infra does not cover. |
| 6 |
> these are particularly useful for projects that are used beyond Gentoo. |
| 7 |
> |
| 8 |
> * release management (e.g. distfiles hosting) |
| 9 |
> * CI runs (e.g. GH actions) |
| 10 |
> * Projects for task management |
| 11 |
> * possibly even Discussions since it'll provide a clear/scoped space for |
| 12 |
> non-Gentoo users & devs. Gentoo forums are huge and require custom accts, |
| 13 |
> and mailing lists are huge and a bit restrictive old timey. |
| 14 |
|
| 15 |
I myself agree on this list. I find some of those features quite nice |
| 16 |
and helping for my developments for Gentoo, so I can understand why we |
| 17 |
would like them. |
| 18 |
|
| 19 |
> this is all orthogonal to the git content itself (objects, branches, tags, |
| 20 |
> etc...). those should remain in the read-only clobber mode that exists now. |
| 21 |
> |
| 22 |
> there is no downside for Gentoo here. it's all functionality that can be |
| 23 |
> had for free, does not introduce any risks, and many devs are already using |
| 24 |
> GH heavily for Gentoo projects -- albeit, they don't do it under the Gentoo |
| 25 |
> umbrella, they fork it into their own personal space and maintain it there. |
| 26 |
> we shouldn't be forcing devs & projects away from Gentoo for such basic |
| 27 |
> functionality. |
| 28 |
|
| 29 |
I know there exist some social contract by Gentoo, which might have |
| 30 |
issues with us using GitHub, but I'm not sure I can fully explain it, so |
| 31 |
I will leave it for others to explain or debate. |
| 32 |
|
| 33 |
I know this is a future project (with something running currently [1]), |
| 34 |
but one day we will have a running Gentoo's GitLab system. I think most |
| 35 |
of the features listed above are currently working in the current |
| 36 |
instance, with various extra nice things (like bugzilla and IRC |
| 37 |
integration), and I think the main thing that isn't setup ready is CI. |
| 38 |
|
| 39 |
GitLab also has mirroring support (I still didn't manage to setup it, |
| 40 |
but my experience with such things is very low), so people could use |
| 41 |
GitLab mainly, with mirror on GitHub, which might improve our "image". |
| 42 |
|
| 43 |
To summarize my long text, I think that even if we open the GitHub |
| 44 |
features (I don't have opinion on it), I think in some time, most of us |
| 45 |
will move into Gentoo's GitLab. |
| 46 |
|
| 47 |
> -mike |
| 48 |
Thanks for opening this discussion - nice reading from you :) |
| 49 |
|
| 50 |
[1] https://gitlab.gentoo.org/ |
| 51 |
|
| 52 |
-- |
| 53 |
Arthur Zamarin |
| 54 |
arthurzam@g.o |
| 55 |
Gentoo Linux developer (Python, GURU, Arch Teams) |
Archives