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> I'll give it to this list outright. |
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> I have problems believing in QA competence when I read comments like these: |
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> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473#c14 |
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> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473#c17 |
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blocked or not, I just post them here, because there is nothing to hide: |
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Comment 14 Chris Reffett |
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Depends on whether you consider build failures and stuff like that to be |
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QA's problem. Further depends on getting hardware--I for one don't |
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exactly have boxes lying around which have nothing better to do than |
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build packages all day. We can discuss this at the next meeting, but I |
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wouldn't suggest getting your hopes up. |
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Comment 15 Julian Ospald (hasufell) |
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(In reply to Chris Reffett from comment #14) |
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I am not really sure if I understand that reasoning. |
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Testing is the very center of Quality Assurance (that's what I |
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learned... correct me if I am wrong). Gentoo as a distribution ships the |
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portage tree. If no one tests the tree on a global basis (arch testers |
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don't), then there is not much QA overall. |
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The quality of our tree inherently depends on the compileability of it's |
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packages. Further, there are a lot of use cases where a developer might |
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want/need to request a tinderbox run with a certain package unmasked, a |
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certain eclass changed etc. |
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In the end, it directly affects the user. |
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Comment 16 Rick Farina (Zero_Chaos) |
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I have a tinderbox class system. I build 4400 packages a day, give or |
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take. Problem is, it's the same 4400 packages, and bug reports are |
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entirely non-automated. If you would like to help setup something |
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better, here I am. |
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Comment 17 Tom Wijsman |
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(In reply to Rick Farina (Zero_Chaos) from comment #16) |
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> I have a tinderbox class system. I build 4400 packages a day, give or |
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take. |
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> Problem is, it's the same 4400 packages, and bug reports are entirely |
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> non-automated. If you would like to help setup something better, here |
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I am. |
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We should fix bugs first before adding more of them; reviving Tinderbox |
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would be nice for when we run out of bugs, but that's definitely not the |
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case yet today. |
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Consider to mark this RESOLVED LATER again... |
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Comment 18 Julian Ospald (hasufell) |
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(In reply to Tom Wijsman (TomWij) from comment #17) |
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> (In reply to Rick Farina (Zero_Chaos) from comment #16) |
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>> I have a tinderbox class system. I build 4400 packages a day, give |
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or take. |
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>> Problem is, it's the same 4400 packages, and bug reports are entirely |
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>> non-automated. If you would like to help setup something better, |
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here I am. |
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> We should fix bugs first before adding more of them; reviving Tinderbox |
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> would be nice for when we run out of bugs, but that's definitely not the |
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> case yet today. |
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> Consider to mark this RESOLVED LATER again... |
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lolwat? |
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Comment 19 Alexander Berntsen (bernalex) |
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(In reply to Tom Wijsman (TomWij) from comment #17) |
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> We should fix bugs first before adding more of them; reviving Tinderbox |
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> would be nice for when we run out of bugs, but that's definitely not the |
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> case yet today. |
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Should we replace enter_bug.cgi with a website saying "sorry, we have |
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enough bugs for now" as well? |