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From: hasufell <hasufell@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Cc: infra@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call For Agenda Items - 13 May 2014
Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 17:43:58
Message-Id: 536D13CF.2000403@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call For Agenda Items - 13 May 2014 by Tom Wijsman
1 I'll give it to this list outright.
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3 I have problems believing in QA competence when I read comments like these:
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5 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473#c14
6 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473#c17
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8 You even blocked me out of the bug. I mean... wtf is happening here? I'm
9 not even sure the list can read those bug comments to understand what I
10 mean.
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12 I used to believe it's lack of manpower/time or even laziness, but I am
13 not sure anymore.
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15 Funnily... the meeting summary of march is lost where you were supposed
16 to vote on the tinderbox matter. I am not sure either if that is "by
17 accident" anymore. I pinged you guys often enough. No one seems to have
18 the logs anymore.
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20 Anyway, I had less trouble getting responses from the old QA team. When
21 I ask you guys, I usually get one of these responses (or similar):
22 * nothing, unless I ping you after 2 weeks again
23 * "probably not in QAs scope"
24 * "post on dev ML first, we don't know what to think"
25 * "not sure if that's our business, appeal to council"
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27 Not sure what's worth QA if they don't have strong opinions and try to
28 avoid to piss off people.
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30 I used to ask QA for guidance beforehand on delicate matters before I
31 escalated elsewhere or chose a particular approach. That doesn't really
32 work anymore, instead people expect me to fire up the bikeshedding
33 dev-ML which is the worst place to get ideas and do constructive
34 brainstorming.
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37 I expect infra to unblock bug 473 now. This is unacceptable.

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