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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:11 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. |
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<wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote: |
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> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 5:59:38 PM EDT Ulrich Mueller wrote: |
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>> >>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016, William L Thomson wrote: |
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>> >> There were only two changes with regards to content after inception |
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>> >> of the CoC: One in 2008, replacing proctors by devrel und userrel |
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>> >> (bug 185572), |
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>> > I was not aware comrel and userrel were created in 2008. |
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>> Both projects are much older. The timing relates to the dissolution of |
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>> the proctors project, see the 2007-07-12 council meeting log. |
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> Yes but per that bug it seems most the policing powers fell under Proctors and |
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> that was transferred to comrel/devrel. |
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Maybe on paper, but the reality is that Proctors functioned for all of |
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about three days (though the devs who constituted the Proctors were |
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doing moderation activities long before and after they were Proctors). |
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It apparently took much longer for the CoC to be updated to reflect |
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the reality of the situation. |
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Devrel/Userrel existed for years before the CoC came along as far as I'm aware. |
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> Actually it is does given powers were transferred from one entity to another. |
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> I never recall hearing issues from the Proctors. Seems comrel/devrel concept |
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> has not worked since its inception. Or at least since Proctors was merged into |
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> or taken over by other entities. |
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I don't think any powers were really transferred anywhere in practice. |
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Devrel did the sorts of things before the CoC that it did after the |
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CoC. For a few days the Proctors were active in the community, and |
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then they were gone. Documentation might have taken ages to catch up |
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with reality, but Devrel never really ceased operating, and the |
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Proctors were never really intended to completely replace them as far |
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as I'm aware. Of course Devrel/Userrel later fused into Comrel, but |
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that isn't really a "transfer of power" so much as a re-org. |
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I'm not sure where you get that "Comrel/Devrel concept has not worked |
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since its inception." If you mean that people still sometimes |
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disregard the CoC, then that is like saying that the Police are |
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unnecessary because there is still crime. |
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