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On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 2:05:54 PM EST Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 1:31 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. |
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> <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote: |
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> > It is really amazing what is tolerated, and what is considered a CoC |
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> > violation. |
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> Keep in mind that "tolerated" and "CoC violation" are different |
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> things. |
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Where does set an example for others to follow fall? |
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> Something can be a CoC violation and be either tolerated or |
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> not. There are a lot of things I'd prefer not be tolerated which are, |
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> and a lot of it comes down to trying to find a balance in enforcement. |
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Or just get rid of enforcement as it is very unfair and biased. |
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> The stuff that does get serious enforcement tends to be fairly |
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> egregious from what I've seen, and rarely are all the details of what |
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> actually happened the things that discussed on the lists or the things |
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> that are commonly known. |
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That is complete BS. I have never done anything severe. Go try to find evidence |
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of such. I can show you countless examples of clear CoC violations. I have |
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mentioned many on list. Yet I was banned recent in 2016 for 7 days. |
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None of this makes any logical sense. The criteria is not consistent. |
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Application and enforcement is not consistent. The whole thing is a mess. |
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> Put another way, from what I've observed Comrel is about as |
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> understaffed as any other part of Gentoo, so for them to go through |
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> all the trouble to actually do something to somebody, they really have |
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> to get their attention in a sustained way... |
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Or simply not be liked by those with such powers. I have seen others, which a |
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recent post was a perfect example of a clear CoC violation. Not to mention |
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creating a toxic community that is very unfriendly. While minor things get |
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punished. |
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I have never insulted someone on list. I have never talked about anyone who |
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was banned on list. I have not used fowl language in IRC and other things. Yet |
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I am not right for Gentoo yet people who do such are? |
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These other people who are "right" for Gentoo, have horrible attitudes, |
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approaches to other people, and are creating a really bad atmosphere. It is of |
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no wonder people are not coming to Gentoo. |
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I very much believe I am not the problem but many who are Developers are the |
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problem. Their attitudes and how they interact with others needs to change. In |
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order for more to be attracted to the project. This is simple logic. |
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No one wants to be around or work with unfriendly rude insulting people. |
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I am not one of those.... Explains why I am not right but others are. Makes |
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allot of sense. |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |