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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] The problem of defunct and undermanned projects in Gentoo
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 17:35:06
Message-Id: 98b8bfba-fc5b-0299-e8fc-ba69440e1943@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] The problem of defunct and undermanned projects in Gentoo by "Michał Górny"
1 On 18/07/17 05:40 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On wto, 2017-07-18 at 22:35 +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote:
3 >> On 18/07/17 22:23, Kent Fredric wrote:
4 >>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 22:12:45 +0100
5 >>> "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote:
6 >>>
7 >>>> I think mgorny was doing some general commit stats, and I have yet to
8 >>>> compile my own, but it would be very interesting to see how many
9 >>>> 'active' team members there were in any given project. I suspect the
10 >>>> results could be very telling ...
11 >>>
12 >>> Its not even like they're "inactive", they're just not active *in the team*.
13 >>>
14 >>> For some, there's no reason for them to devaway:
15 >>>
16 >>> - They're on IRC
17 >>> - They commit daily
18 >>>
19 >>> But they're on teams they seldom do things in.
20 >>>
21 >>> This is probably more true the more teams you're on.
22 >>
23 >> Then why are you 'in' the team.. I mean, there's one thing to idle on an
24 >> IRC channel, but membership does normally imply some form of
25 >> contribution, no? Or is it just to make you 'look'
26 >> interested/popular/part-of-the-furniture ....
27 >
28 > Well, that *is* a problem. However, we are supposed to be friendly
29 > and nice, and not tell other developers that they have done literally
30 > nothing during the 2 years they're part of some project. That could
31 > discourage them from contributing.
32
33
34 OK, so here's the flipside of this. I'm a member of a few projects
35 because I help take care of just a couple of things or maybe even just
36 a gentoo-carried patch. Being a project member is necessary as I do
37 want to have the commit rights on the project, but I'm -not- nor ever
38 meant to be a general project member or overall maintainer or dev.
39
40 So does that mean I should remove myself from these projects? Or
41 maybe do we just need some sort of 'occasional contributor' status to
42 the project membership? Or should things just stay as they are?

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